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Post  Masterweaver on Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:24 am

Razor Wings
Costs a magic point. For the next ten minutes, your wings are razor sharp and can cut through anything. NOTE: Griffons can't have this talent.
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Post  Videocrazy on Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:15 am

Masterweaver wrote:Razor Wings
Costs a magic point. For the next ten minutes, your wings are razor sharp and can cut through anything. NOTE: Griffons can't have this talent.

So, uh, is there any particular reason Griffons can't have this talent?
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Post  Zarhon on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am

Probably because they already have razor-sharp claws and pointy beaks. They'd essentially turn into flying sawblades.
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Post  SimpleZen on Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:54 am

Videocrazy wrote:
Masterweaver wrote:Razor Wings
Costs a magic point. For the next ten minutes, your wings are razor sharp and can cut through anything. NOTE: Griffons can't have this talent.

So, uh, is there any particular reason Griffons can't have this talent?

Razor Wings - Magic
Preparation Time: 1 minute
As a Pegasus your wings were made to fight thunder storms, devastate hurricanes, and arm wrestle tornadoes. What's some flimsy steel to that? At the cost of one magic point for the next ten minutes your can cut anything from dirt too diamonds, even magics not out of your abilities. Only items of serious magical potency could come away unscathed and even then my bets still on you.

Obviously its going to need further tweaking but i believes this answers the above question while also addressing a few concerns of my own. I flavor texted in a reason for the Pegasus only tag, while setting, admittedly vague, limits on what the wings can cut. I'll admit that my first thought when seeing the "and can cut through anything" part was space-time here i come. Really the only thing left to do is perhaps add some more clear cut(ha a pun) answers to what the wings can cut or if to just leave it up to DM discretion

And get approved by whoever approves stuff around here, probably Stairc

Now please comments, criticisms, and muffins
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Post  Masterweaver on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:34 am

My headcanon explanation was "Pegasus magic." That is, pegasi get this because they fly using magic, but griffons fly with aerodynamics.
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Post  SimpleZen on Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:45 am

Masterweaver wrote:My headcanon explanation was "Pegasus magic." That is, pegasi get this because they fly using magic, but griffons fly with aerodynamics.

Seems legit. Now the only thing left to do is wait to a reasonable time and hope whoever decides these things like the concept
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Post  Masterweaver on Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:38 pm

You know at the rate we're making Unicorn and Earth Pony talents pegasi are going to be remarkably underpowered.
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Post  Prof. Charles Hoofington on Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:51 pm

Wow, pegasi need some love.

Storm chaser- you have a +5 bonus to flying through storms

Acrobatic- you have a +5 bonus to performing acrobatic displays in the air

Flight trail 5/day- as you fly you may have a thematicly appropriate weather condition follow your path (like dash's rainbow or the wonderbolts stormclouds). You get a +3 bonus to the next stunt you perform in the air.

synchronised flying- as long as you fly in perfect formation with at least one other pegasus, all pegasus in the formation get +2 to all skill checks in the air. If mutliple pegasus ponies in the formation have this talent, it stacks.

That last one requires a succsesful acrobatics check from all pegasus involved, but once passed each gets the bonus to further checks, for as long as they stay in the formation.

Anyway, what do you think of these?
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Post  The Warrior of Many Faces on Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:37 pm

Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:Wow, pegasi need some love.

Storm chaser- you have a +5 bonus to flying through storms

Acrobatic- you have a +5 bonus to performing acrobatic displays in the air

Flight trail 5/day- as you fly you may have a thematicly appropriate weather condition follow your path (like dash's rainbow or the wonderbolts stormclouds). You get a +3 bonus to the next stunt you perform in the air.

synchronised flying- as long as you fly in perfect formation with at least one other pegasus, all pegasus in the formation get +2 to all skill checks in the air. If mutliple pegasus ponies in the formation have this talent, it stacks.

That last one requires a succsesful acrobatics check from all pegasus involved, but once passed each gets the bonus to further checks, for as long as they stay in the formation.

Anyway, what do you think of these?

I really like Storm Chaser and Synchronized Flying! They're cool, useful talents. Flight Trail, though I like the idea, could probably use a couple less uses per day. Acrobatic is functional, but somewhat unflavored. Could use something to spice it up (at which point I admit I have no clue how).
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Post  Prof. Charles Hoofington on Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:47 pm

So knock flight trail down to what, 3/day?

As for acrobatic, i agree that it is missing something, but i am not sure what.
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Post  The Warrior of Many Faces on Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:24 pm

Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:So knock flight trail down to what, 3/day?


3/day sounds good.
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Post  Prof. Charles Hoofington on Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:11 am

Weather touched
Some pegasus ponies have a closer than normal realtionship to the weather. They can not only craft the weather, but allow the weather to craft them instead.
When the appropriate weather is present, the character gains the following bonus:

Windy- with the wind beneath your wings, there are few who can catch you. Double your speed.
Raining- ad the rain refreshes and vitalises plants, so to does it refresh you and your allies. Gain a +3 to heal checks.
Rainbow- whena rainbow shines in the sky it reminds ponies that beauty appears after the storm. You have a +3 to assist other ponies on there skill checks.

Only one bonus can be appalied at a time, and the bonus lasts for the whole day, but you may change the weather before applaying the bonus-i.e its sunny, and you want the raining bonus, so you may weather craft rain and for the rest of the day experiamce the raining bonus regardles of what the weather changes to. [this is to prevent players from spontainously causing rain to get the heal bonus, then changing it back to wind for the wind bonus, and to stop people saying you can have multiple weather at the same time, so i should get all these bonuses at once.]


I intend to create more effects for other weather conditions (sunny, snowy, lightning etc), just cant think of good effects. So what do you think?
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Post  Stairc -Dan Felder on Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:16 pm

SimpleZen wrote:
Videocrazy wrote:
Masterweaver wrote:Razor Wings
Costs a magic point. For the next ten minutes, your wings are razor sharp and can cut through anything. NOTE: Griffons can't have this talent.

So, uh, is there any particular reason Griffons can't have this talent?

Razor Wings - Magic
Preparation Time: 1 minute
As a Pegasus your wings were made to fight thunder storms, devastate hurricanes, and arm wrestle tornadoes. What's some flimsy steel to that? At the cost of one magic point for the next ten minutes your can cut anything from dirt too diamonds, even magics not out of your abilities. Only items of serious magical potency could come away unscathed and even then my bets still on you.

Obviously its going to need further tweaking but i believes this answers the above question while also addressing a few concerns of my own. I flavor texted in a reason for the Pegasus only tag, while setting, admittedly vague, limits on what the wings can cut. I'll admit that my first thought when seeing the "and can cut through anything" part was space-time here i come. Really the only thing left to do is perhaps add some more clear cut(ha a pun) answers to what the wings can cut or if to just leave it up to DM discretion

And get approved by whoever approves stuff around here, probably Stairc

Now please comments, criticisms, and muffins

I absolutely love this concept. Super-flavorful and very cool concept. The only issue right now is that the power is so narrow and the cost so high at a Magic Point that it needs to be utterly shattering when it works... And I'm not sure we can make the payoff of it working strong enough to be worth a Magic Point and a talent without being so useful that it breaks whatever situation the players are dealing with.

How about...

Razor Wings - Magic
Preparation Time: 30 seconds
As a Pegasus your wings were made to fight thunder storms, devastate hurricanes, and wrestle tornadoes. What's some flimsy steel to that? For the next ten minutes your wings can cut through any solid object from dirt to diamonds (effectively gaining +40 to stunt checks involving such actions). You can also slash through magical enchantments, letting you make stunts or acrobatics checks in place of arcana checks to attempt to dispel magical effects (this application does not benefit from the above-mentioned +40 bonus). Using Razor Wings requires complete concentration as you aim for the perfect angle on your target, thus it cannot be used as an attack.

Also, you're right SimpleZen - I'm the guy who approves stuff for Official Expansions. Cool

Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:Storm Chaser and Acrobatic

Doesn't this kind of fall under Freaky Knowledge? I'm interested in Synchronized Flying though, despite my mentioning that I want to move away from skill check bonuses. It's very flavorful. Is there any way to have it provide something besides skill check bonuses?

Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:Weather touched
Some pegasus ponies have a closer than normal realtionship to the weather. They can not only craft the weather, but allow the weather to craft them instead.
When the appropriate weather is present, the character gains the following bonus:

Windy- with the wind beneath your wings, there are few who can catch you. Double your speed.
Raining- ad the rain refreshes and vitalises plants, so to does it refresh you and your allies. Gain a +3 to heal checks.
Rainbow- whena rainbow shines in the sky it reminds ponies that beauty appears after the storm. You have a +3 to assist other ponies on there skill checks.

Only one bonus can be appalied at a time, and the bonus lasts for the whole day, but you may change the weather before applaying the bonus-i.e its sunny, and you want the raining bonus, so you may weather craft rain and for the rest of the day experiamce the raining bonus regardles of what the weather changes to. [this is to prevent players from spontainously causing rain to get the heal bonus, then changing it back to wind for the wind bonus, and to stop people saying you can have multiple weather at the same time, so i should get all these bonuses at once.]


I intend to create more effects for other weather conditions (sunny, snowy, lightning etc), just cant think of good effects. So what do you think?

I like the concept, it makes Weather-Crafting more useful. Again, I want to move away from skill checks though, so it'd be great if these conditions applied other bonuses.

Also, another Pegasus concept...

Thundercrash - Daily
For the next five minutes, the range of your weathercrafting ability expands to a one mile radius.

Not sold on the name, but I feel like it's a relevant ability - especially if atmospheric skills start kicking in. I'd like to develop Prof. Charles' ideas to the point where a weather-focused pegasus is a viable and cool option.
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Post  Prof. Charles Hoofington on Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:32 pm

Stairc -Dan Felder wrote:

Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:Storm Chaser and Acrobatic

Doesn't this kind of fall under Freaky Knowledge? I'm interested in Synchronized Flying though, despite my mentioning that I want to move away from skill check bonuses. It's very flavorful. Is there any way to have it provide something besides skill check bonuses?

Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:Weather touched
Some pegasus ponies have a closer than normal realtionship to the weather. They can not only craft the weather, but allow the weather to craft them instead.
When the appropriate weather is present, the character gains the following bonus:

Windy- with the wind beneath your wings, there are few who can catch you. Double your speed.
Raining- ad the rain refreshes and vitalises plants, so to does it refresh you and your allies. Gain a +3 to heal checks.
Rainbow- whena rainbow shines in the sky it reminds ponies that beauty appears after the storm. You have a +3 to assist other ponies on there skill checks.

Only one bonus can be appalied at a time, and the bonus lasts for the whole day, but you may change the weather before applaying the bonus-i.e its sunny, and you want the raining bonus, so you may weather craft rain and for the rest of the day experiamce the raining bonus regardles of what the weather changes to. [this is to prevent players from spontainously causing rain to get the heal bonus, then changing it back to wind for the wind bonus, and to stop people saying you can have multiple weather at the same time, so i should get all these bonuses at once.]


I intend to create more effects for other weather conditions (sunny, snowy, lightning etc), just cant think of good effects. So what do you think?

I like the concept, it makes Weather-Crafting more useful. Again, I want to move away from skill checks though, so it'd be great if these conditions applied other bonuses.

Also, another Pegasus concept...

Thundercrash - Daily
For the next five minutes, the range of your weathercrafting ability expands to a one mile radius.

Not sold on the name, but I feel like it's a relevant ability - especially if atmospheric skills start kicking in. I'd like to develop Prof. Charles' ideas to the point where a weather-focused pegasus is a viable and cool option.


Your right about storm chaser and acrobatic, how did i miss that. Stiil, storm chaser is a good name for a talent so i will hold on to it for another idea.

For the weather touched, an alternate idea i had was that you would gain some sort of ablity based on the weather, so when it snowed you would have frost breath or could freeze people in place and other such abilites, but i got stuck and defaulted to skill checks. I will come up with some more ideas later.

Thundercrash sounds awsome.


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Post  Prof. Charles Hoofington on Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:13 pm

Okay, reworkimg weather touched.

Weather touched
When ever the appropriate weather condition is present you gain one of the following ablities:

Snowing- cold ice runs through your veins and breath. by spending a magic point, you gain the ablity to breath snow and ice onto up to 5 characters, causing them to become immobile for 10 minutes.

Windy- your wings contain the power of an untamed gale. by spending a magic point, you gain the ablity to flap your wings hard enough to knock over anything and any one in front of you and send it flying for [10 feet]- is this distance appropriate?

Sunny- your heart is fuled by the warmth of the sun. by spending a magic point, you gain the ablity to emit warm sunlight for 10 minutes as a soft glow. In addition, you may create a burst of light, ending the effect but blinding all nearby creatures.

Rainy- Just as rain washes away dirt and mud, so too does it wash away idle thoughts. by spending a magic point, you gain the abllity to reroll any skill check made in the next 10 minutes.

Fog- your body takes on the gasesous form of fog. By spending a magic point, you may pass though phisycal objects like doors, tables and other ponies for the next 10 minutes.

Thunder and lightning- you strike with the strength of thunder and the speed of lightning. By spending a magic point, you gain the ablity to punch and kick through solid steel for the next 10 minutes.


How are these? Too weak? Too strong? Too unbalanced? I have to admit i was just following the rule of cool here.
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Post  Prof. Charles Hoofington on Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:16 pm

Got a new one

Birfrost bridge- magic
For 10 minutes a rainbow appears ending at two points nearby. Other ponies may cross this rainbow as if it was solid.

Goes against the canon which states that rainbows are liquid, but i do love me some norse mythology.
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Post  Flutterknight on Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:45 pm

Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:Got a new one

Birfrost bridge- magic
For 10 minutes a rainbow appears ending at two points nearby. Other ponies may cross this rainbow as if it was solid.

Goes against the canon which states that rainbows are liquid, but i do love me some norse mythology.

Perhaps it could be mixed with cloud and frozen by some manner of Pegasus magic? Or just the freezing really, the cloud just seems like it could make sense in helping it be used as a stable platform.
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Post  Prof. Charles Hoofington on Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:07 pm

Flutterknight wrote:
Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:Got a new one

Birfrost bridge- magic
For 10 minutes a rainbow appears ending at two points nearby. Other ponies may cross this rainbow as if it was solid.

Goes against the canon which states that rainbows are liquid, but i do love me some norse mythology.

Perhaps it could be mixed with cloud and frozen by some manner of Pegasus magic? Or just the freezing really, the cloud just seems like it could make sense in helping it be used as a stable platform.

Hum, possibly. I dont see anything wrong with it mechanicly, but the flavour isnt quite right. Like the original pegasus had the ability to create freshwater sprimgs where ever he stomped his hoof, its just not something i can see ours doing. Might go back, rethink it.
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Post  AlicornPriest on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:08 pm

Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:
Goes against the canon which states that rainbows are liquid, but i do love me some norse mythology.
Well, what have we seen of rainbows? We've seen the liquidy stuff that pools around RD's house (probably similar to the stuff at the Factory), but we've also seen physical rainbows in Hearts and Hooves Day. That rainbow was solid.
Perhaps there are artificial rainbows and natural rainbows.
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Post  Masterweaver on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:20 pm

I dunno. I think that "Liquid" rainbow is different then "Solid" rainbow in the same way paint is different then canvas.

So solid rainbows are actually cloud sculptures with liquid rainbow in them. Scootaloo engaged in vandalism!
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Post  Prof. Charles Hoofington on Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:17 pm

AlicornPriest wrote:
Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:
Goes against the canon which states that rainbows are liquid, but i do love me some norse mythology.
Well, what have we seen of rainbows? We've seen the liquidy stuff that pools around RD's house (probably similar to the stuff at the Factory), but we've also seen physical rainbows in Hearts and Hooves Day. That rainbow was solid.
Perhaps there are artificial rainbows and natural rainbows.
I actualy haven't seen hearts and hooves day yet. Great, now i have to do some research.
*grabs popcorn*

But if solid rainbows exist, then birfrost bridge works. Well, apart from the name i guess.
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Post  Philadelphus on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:38 pm

Or maybe rainbows are simply regular matter in Equestria that comes in solid and liquid phases, just like water on Earth comes in solid (ice) and liquid phases. The liquid rainbow could be how it's produced, and after some time (or magic, or something) it solidifies into the solid rainbows seen elsewhere.
(Now I'm wondering what rainbow gas would be like...given how spicy liquid rainbows are, it'd probably be Equestria's version of mustard gas or something. That's what all those hazmat suits in The Cutie Pox were meant to protect against!)
Or, using Masterweaver's analogy from two posts up, liquid rainbows are like liquid paint. Once it dries it become much harder and firmer (though the analogy breaks down a bit). Or perhaps an even better analogy would be concrete. Initially liquid-like, then sets over time (or through the use of magic, possibly).
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Post  Zarhon on Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:53 pm

Static charge - Daily
Preparation time: 2 minutes
Duration of charge: 10 mins, 30 mins (thunderstorm)
Duration of discharge effect: 4min (split evenly), 8 min (thunderstorm)
You quickly grab a cloud and rub your body onto it, generating an accumulation of static electricity within your coat and hooves. Touching an object or creature will discharge the electricity into it, dealing various effects.
- Creatures touched will have their manes, tails and coat become "poofed", become twitchy (Preventing flying or running), and are unable to let go of any objects they were holding at the time.
- Creatures flying while this is in effect crash to the ground, but can steer themselves and attempt to reduce the damage (stunts/endurance DC).
- Touching metallic materials spreads the charge to all other creatures touching it, splitting its duration evenly amongst all affected targets (4 ponies = 1 min shocked each).
- Touching a magical or electrical object/machine lets the player activate it, deactivate it, or cause it to randomly malfunction.
If there is a thunderstorm in effect when you use this talent, its charge and duration is doubled, allowing you to knock out creatures of same or smaller size, for double the duration. Touching magical or electrical objects and mechanisms will cause them to break.

Cloud decoy - Daily
Preparation time: 5 minutes
You craft a decoy of a pegasus pony using a cloud and some rainbow juice. The cloud vanishes when attacked in any way and is affected by other atmospheric condtions (like storms, blowing wind...). Those seeing it from afar (further than 50 yards) mistake it for the pony it is imitating and cannot discern it as a decoy. Those within 50 yards make a DC25 check, or a DC15 check if within 10 yards to discern its identity. The decoy floats without motion, unless magic is used to steer it and make it animate its limbs and wings (This adds +5 to the disguise check).

Cloud accessories
Preparation time: 1 minute
Duration: 10 minutes
You can create small "clothing" objects, minor objects, or accessories out of clouds, usable by other ponies and yourself. They can hold light objects under 10lbs. Objects you can make include: Fake beards, wigs, cloaks, slippers, moustaches, baskets, bowls, saddlebags, pillows, blankets, cushions, brushes/quills... Any such object vanishes when damaged or under powerful atmospheric conditions. You can have as many accessories as you want. DM can trump any accessory.

Cloud cover - Daily
Duration: 10 minutes
Size: 5x5 meters
Preparation time: 5 minutes
You can temporarily stiffen a cloud to act as a semi-solid, elastic obstacle. Pegasi flying directly into this cloud at high speed become stuck in it, unable to move until its duration ends, and can be moved along with the cloud. Otherwise, they are bounced away in rebound. Blunt objects bounce off it, as though it is made of rubber, while sharp objects can pierce through it. Liquids are absorbed by the cloud, and are ejected all at once when its duration ends, or it is bucked, causing the liquid to rain from the cloud. Others cannot tell it apart from regular clouds. Shape of the cloud is determined by player.

Soggy cloud - 2/day
Preparation time: 2 minutes
Duration: 5 minutes
You pick a cloud from high up and force it to absorb so much water, it barely floats. You can then activate this cloud to cause it to plummet straight to the ground. When it crashes, it soaks everything within 40 yards with water, and traps any ponies the cloud drops directly onto for its duration. Cloud is big enough to capture 6 ponies at once. The cloud looks like a normal raincloud when observed from a distance.

Spicy surprise- At will
Preparation time: 2 minutes
Duration: 30 mins after application
You can "obtain" a jar of liquid rainbows. The substance causes can temporarily blind somepony for 2 minutes if applied to the eyes. If eaten, forces ponies to abandon anything they were doing to throw themselves into the nearest water source, quenching the raging inferno on their taste buds. This liquid rainbows can be poured onto clouds to cause them change color, blind and cause ponies caught within it to look for water, or to make it rain rainbow juice (50-50 chance of blinding or making those caught seek water). The liquid rainbows can also be used to change color of objects, or someponys mane, tail or coat. The jar of liquid rainbows can be thrown to make it spill onto something.
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Post  Prof. Charles Hoofington on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:24 pm

Prof. Charles Hoofington wrote:

synchronised flying- as long as you fly in perfect formation with at least one other pegasus, all pegasus in the formation get +2 to all skill checks in the air. If mutliple pegasus ponies in the formation have this talent, it stacks.

That last one requires a succsesful acrobatics check from all pegasus involved, but once passed each gets the bonus to further checks, for as long as they stay in the formation.

I want to go back to this idea. I like it, its very cool and flavourful, but at the moment the mechanics are just a glorified, harder to pull off assist bonus. You would be better of just giving the damn assist bonus.
How about:
"each pegasus with this talent and up to one without for each pegasus that does* may roll an acrobatics check to fly in formation. Each pegasus that passes is considered to be in the formation. each pegasus (and any other appropriate winged creatures) in the formation gain a +1 bonus to all skill checks for each other pegasus^ in the formation. In addition, any pony in the formation may spend a magic point to gain any utlilty talent (but not racial trait) held by any pegasus in the formation, untill the formation breaks or a rest is taken (because someone will try to fly in their sleep). Requirements for the utility are still required (so a griffin will be unable to mimic the Ten Seconds Flat talent, but could mimic the Cloud Chaser talent if she already had (or had spent a second magic point to mimic as well**) the Flight School talent), but any further magic point costs and preparation times are ignored."

*so if 1 pegasus had this ablity, one without it may join. If 2 have this ablility, up to 2 more without it can join. And so forth.
^so if there are 2 pegasi in the formation each gets +1. If the are 3, each gets +2. 4 nets each pegasus a +3 bonus. 10 nets a whopping +9 bonus for each individual pegasus.
**yes, the only limit to the number of talents you can mimic is how many magic points you have at the moment.

Hows that now? I like this version much better personaly speaking. It gets stronger as more join the formation, and you get a wider pool of talents to pick from.


As for the rainbow thing, i must conclude that solid rainbows are possibly feasable in the mlp universe, so a solid rainbow bridge is okay flavourwise.
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Post  Stairc -Dan Felder on Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:12 am

So many awesome ideas for Pegasus talents... Hard to know where to start.

Hopefully the Everypony category gets the same amount of love. Every talent that goes there is more options for all players, not just one race.
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