Logan's Additions to the Elements of Harmony

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Post  LoganAura on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:47 pm

Well the elements of Harmony are MUCH to situational for my liking, so I wanted to do something about it. First I thought of making boons, or Destinies, regarding it but that kinda pigeonholes ponies away from what they'd really like just to get some power from the Elements. So I talked with dan and he gave me the idea (Literally gave me it. it was his idea I just had the concept) of Utility Talents with a Prerequisite.
I wanted the elements to have some sort of feeling of accomplishment though, so you have to reach not only a level, but fall under one of the elements of harmony to get the appropriate power. Dan fixed the flavor of one of my ideas and here it is.

Rainbow Dash To Your Side - Magic
Prerequisite: Element of Loyalty, Lv 5
If one of your allies is in combat and you aren't, you can teleport instantly to their side.

As for the other 5... well...

Once Smitten Twice Fluttershy -Magic
Prerequisite: Element of Kindness, Lv 5.
Unknown.

You are the Applejack of my Eye- Magic
Prerequisite: Element of Honesty, Lv 5
Unknown

A Rarity to Come By
Prerequisite: Element of Generosity, Lv 5
Unknown

Easy as Pinkie Pie
Prerequisite: Element of Laughter, Lv 5
Unknown

Our Friendship's Magic
Prerequisite: Element of Magic, Lv 5
Unknown

...
So yeah, nothing final after Loyalty.
My original ideas are below, copy pasted from a message to dan.
"When Danger Makes Me Want to Hide, You'll Rainbow Dash to My Side: Loyalty tier 2. When an ally is in danger, spend a magic point to appear there within the next combat turn/ immediately.

Kindness is never in short supply, Once Smitten, Twice Fluttershy: Kindness tier 2. An antagonistic creature treats you as an ally for 24 hours, or until you or another ally takes an action that would antagonize them again.

For Honesty Nopony Can Deny, You are the Applejack of My Eye: Honesty Tier 2. Say one thing in character to somepony else. That pony believes it is true even if it is obviously false. For example, "Princess Celestia is right behind you and will send you to the moon if you don't tell us what we want."

A Heart That Shines So Beautiful, A Rarity To Come By: Generosity tier 2 Roll 3d20, privately between you and the dm. At any time during the session you may switch one of the rolls of either an ally or an enemy with 1 of the three. (Like giving 1 to somepony's perception versus a 20 on an ally's steatlth)

And You All Make Fun and Laughter Easy as Pinkie Pie!: Laughter tier 2 Count a 17 or higher (16+ on an earth pony cuie mark skill) as a Crit Success.
Our Friendship's Magic, and it's growing all the time: Magic Tier 2. Any ally can somepony else's utility or Element ability, using their own magic point if nessacary, even if that pony is nowhere near the first."


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Re: Logan's Additions to the Elements of Harmony

Post  Mr.Hero on Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:56 pm

LoganAura wrote:
For Honesty Nopony Can Deny, You are the Applejack of My Eye: Honesty Tier 2. Say one thing in character to somepony else. That pony believes it is true even if it is obviously false. For example, "Princess Celestia is right behind you and will send you to the moon if you don't tell us what we want."

So the Tier 2 ability for honesty is... the ability to tell convincing lies?
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Re: Logan's Additions to the Elements of Harmony

Post  LoganAura on Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:04 am

Exactly why it got scrapped.

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Post  tygerburningbright on Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:06 pm

just got a wonderful idea for You are the Applejack of my Eye's effect

For one in game hour no creature that you can see can intentionally tell a lie.
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Post  LoganAura on Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:30 pm

That seems like it has too much of a drawback.

DM:"Who threw that big statue at the pony!?"
Player: Honesty is still in effect right?
DM: yep.
Player: Dammit "I did."
GUILTY.

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Post  Philadelphus on Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:49 am

I like this idea, I definitely think it has potential. How about for generosity:
A Rarity To Come By – Immediate Interrupt
At the start of the session you may roll 3 d20's. At any time in the session, as an immediate interrupt, you may replace the result of a d20 roll (either of a willing ally or an NPC) with one of the three numbers you rolled.

(Should it perhaps be a Magic Interrupt? Since you could potentially sleep or otherwise regain Magic Points throughout a session. I'm imagining if Loyalty requires a Magic Point, all the others probably should as well.)

Also, just a thought, perhaps Honesty could have the ability to tell when someone is lying? Or would that not be powerful enough?
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Post  LoganAura on Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:17 am

I like that, but maybe if we alter it a bit to be more of a -Magic skill that both what I had done and that.

A Rarity to Come by- Magic Interrupt
Trigger When an d20 is rolled and you dislike the outcome
roll 2d20. you can choose to replace that first d20 with either of your rolls.

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Post  Philadelphus on Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:04 pm

That sounds good. Maybe a slight re-write to put it in the trigger-effect format:
A Rarity To Come By – Magic Interrupt
Trigger: A d20 is rolled and you dislike the result.
Effect: Roll 2d20. You may replace the triggering roll with one of the two numbers you rolled.

(Should it perhaps say something about "a d20 is rolled by someone else", so that a player can't use this bonus on themself? Since as it's written, you could use it to help with one of your skill challenges. Or should that be left as a possibility?)
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