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Post  Masterweaver Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:26 pm

We all knew this was coming.

SO! Concepts. Crystal Ponies seem to have some connection with Crystals. Obvious, no? Mayhap that should be translated into some form of crystal-based racial, like.... I dunno, they can store magic points in crystals for later use? A bit OP on the surface, so it needs some work. Also, they had griffon statuses, which implies the empire had some sort of relationship with griffons... that's probably not a pertinent detail. The shiny thing should also be considered.
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Post  Xel Unknown Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:27 pm

No, they've got some type of Harmony-ish related thingie I think. Something to do with the fact that their mood effects their ablities... That's my take on the Crystal Ponies.
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Post  Masterweaver Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:48 pm

Actually I think they use Crystals for Harmony and Harmony for Crystals... it's a great big circle of love, maaaaan.
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Post  Zarhon Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:47 pm

Flavor text:
Crystal Ponies:

Racials/utility talent ideas:

Crystal Coat:

Sparkle sparkle sparkle!:

Perky Personality:

Hex-o-vision:

Glittery Coat:


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Post  Masterweaver Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:58 pm

I don't know about Crystal Coat and Sparkle Sparkle Sparkle.
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Post  ZamuelNow Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:31 pm

Crystal Ponies seem like they would be a really interesting choice but the issue is figuring out just what they are. Are they an entirely separate pony race? If so, then something like this would be needed with a number of racial options. Are they just a variant of Earth Ponies? I sorta lean towards this thought and thus they would just be swapping out Epic Pwny for Luster.
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Post  ZamuelNow Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:32 am

With the inclusion of Crystalline, it's got me thinking of the Crystal Ponies again.  Designed right, they could fit their own niche.  However, I came to an interesting difficulty since things could be viewed different ways.  Split this in half (and borrowed Zarhon's flavor text):

Crystal Ponies - First Half:

With two points left, it seems like a utility talent would be the perfect thing to round it out.  Was thinking either Forcefield, Celestia’s Light, or Light Trap would be best.  Forcefield would be flavored as a tangible shield of light while the latter two would be ways to represent their status as a beacon of light, though CL is probably the far better option.

Naturally Skilled options:
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Post  Kindulas Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:50 pm

Have you considered simply taking Bioluminescence? I suppose that would beg the question of what the other point should go to
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Post  Jason Shadow Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:44 pm

If Bioluminescence is picked, then it seems to me that the likeliest options for the last point would be one of these:

- We're Just Good at This Stuff
- Magical Attunement
- Sharp Eyes
- Specialist
- Cultural Knowledge
- Herd Mentality
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Post  Zarhon Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:27 am

Jason Shadow wrote:If Bioluminescence is picked, then it seems to me that the likeliest options for the last point would be one of these:

- We're Just Good at This Stuff
- Magical Attunement
- Sharp Eyes
- Specialist
- Cultural Knowledge
- Herd Mentality
Sharp Eyes would be quite literal for Crystal Ponies.
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Post  ZamuelNow Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:52 pm

The reason I didn't suggest Bioluminescence over the others is that it's for a singular part of the body like an angler fish as opposed to an all body glow. Plus, blinding light and/or forcefields seems in line with the climax of The Crystal Empire. Bioluminescence is still a valid option and Jason Shadow's suggestions seem like decent options for a counterpart if Bioluminescence is chosen.
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Post  Philadelphus Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:15 pm

I'm not sure that bioluminescence really fits. It never looked to me like the crystal ponies were actually giving off light, just that they were reflecting and refracting light that was already hitting them from the sun.

If you need a two-point option to fill in, how about Stubbornness?
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Post  Kindulas Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:13 am

Perhaps we could make a special version of Light Trap for them that uses themselves as the Light Trap, then has a small buff to make it a worth (2) pointer. I mean maybe that isn't something they actually do in canon but it's a thought
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Post  Philadelphus Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:33 am

I think another question we could stand to ask ourselves is, "Are crystal ponies really portrayed differently enough from regular earth ponies to justify giving them a completely different skill set?" Because we could always give them a little overlap with earth ponies in the official build, and people who feel differently will just use Genetic Engineering to make their ideal crystal pony anyway. Of course we have the problem that earth ponies have 3-point racials (barring Cutie Mark), and we don't have room for one of those with the current proposed setup, but perhaps we could revisit that, or come up with a 2-point version of one of the earth pony 3-point racials.
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Post  ZamuelNow Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:15 am

I think their translucent bodies and ability to power the Crystal Heart actually would make them different enough from earth ponies to be considered their own entry.

Kindulas wrote:Perhaps we could make a special version of Light Trap for them that uses themselves as the Light Trap, then has a small buff to make it a worth (2) pointer. I mean maybe that isn't something they actually do in canon but it's a thought
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As said, light and forcefield concepts were due to them powering the Crystal Heart. They did seem to start glowing right before the light wave hit them.  I think the issue is figuring out how much of that is tied to a specific powerful artifact and how much is inborn.  Playability would dictate stretching a few things but I'm not sure in which direction is best.
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Post  Stairc -Dan Felder Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:30 pm

The crystal heart connection might be a cultural thing too. It might be a part of their kingdom and not just a part of their race.
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Post  ZamuelNow Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:03 pm

Quite possible. However, it's interesting to note that while Mane 6, Spike, and Cadance benefited from the wave, they didn't help power it up. Plus, culture is its own interesting concept due to the system having Freaky Knowledge. They have different architecture, agriculture, a massive library, and an actual biodome. I'm oddly starting to lean towards a slightly reflavored Bioluminescence and Cultural Knowledge to round the build out. This would still allow individual Crystal Pony players to pick up things like. Celestia's Light, Forcefield, etc
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