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Post  Azureink on Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:33 am

Someone should send the updated news to Newbiespud before he accidentally puts something in his next comic about Kari.
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Post  century6 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:58 am

Azureink wrote:Someone should send the updated news to Newbiespud before he accidentally puts something in his next comic about Kari.

I'll email him.

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Post  AProcrastinatingWriter on Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:01 am

Oh, thank God.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  Grey Pen The Flawed on Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:33 am

Deo Gratias!

Hay! Maybe she'll deign to play a game on the forums with us!

Or maybe not...
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Post  Ranubis on Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:25 pm

This is fantastic news! I look forward to seeing her again, as I'm sure all of us do.
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Post  SilentBelle on Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:30 pm

Wow, I'm so grateful. I hope we get to see her again sometime soon and wish her well.
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Post  Lyntermas on Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:00 pm

I don't know much about her and I don't know what her life is like, but I want her to know how much she is loved and how much she would be missed. I'm glad she's alive, and I hope she recovers in her own time.
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Post  Jason Shadow on Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:22 pm

Oh... oh, thank goodness... This is just... wow. I can't properly express how glad I am that she got this second chance. Here's hoping that her situation improves from here on out.
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Post  Xel Unknown on Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:37 pm

*happy dance mode go!*
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Post  Doc pseudopolis on Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:16 pm

Jason Shadow wrote:Oh... oh, thank goodness... This is just... wow. I can't properly express how glad I am that she got this second chance. Here's hoping that her situation improves from here on out.
Aye. Agreed.

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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  Greywander on Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:44 pm

If words could not express my earlier sadness, neither can they express how happy I am to hear that she survived and is recovering. This is nothing short of a miracle.

Now I feel a little silly about drawing that picture in tribute to her. But it's a good, glad-to-be-wrong kind of silly.
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Post  Appkes on Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:59 pm

I am so grateful to whatever forces may shape fate that she was lucky enough to get this second chance. I hope, and believe we all hope, that she goes on to make the best use of it, and help herself to remain such a wonderful, amazing person.

-Best Wishes.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  Nehiel Mori on Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:36 pm

Now I get a chance to know her better then the one time I talked to her in chat. This pleases me greatly as Dan has only told me amazing things.

I mean, she made Gather Energy; she has to be a badass.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  Greywander on Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:50 pm

Er, Dan and Zarhon, and anyone else who's reposted Zaina's message, you should probably remove her phone number from the message. That sort of information shouldn't really be posted in a public place where any internet user can find it, not without Zaina's permission, at least.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  Stairc -Dan Felder on Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:11 pm

Completely forgot that was even in the message! Fixed.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  Dusk Raven on Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:11 am

So, I only just got around to reading this announcement.

My reaction to the initial italicized paragraph was... well, let me put it this way, it was as though something had plunged its talons into my chest and crushed my heart.

But I kept reading, knowing the title hinted at optimism, and am extremely glad to know that she'll be all right... at least physically. Hopefully she'll be feeling better emotionally as well.

...I'm a little puzzled at my own reaction. I didn't even know her personally, but I'd recognized her name from the Friendship is Dragons comments, and... I don't know. I guess she left quite a memory, or maybe I'm more attached to people from FiD than I know.

Maybe it was just the part about suicide.

But either way, strangely enough... this just makes me want to get to know the people on here better. Including her.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  XandZero2 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:33 pm

You know, it's a morbid fear, I know, but every time someone stops posting for a long time on a forum, I wonder if they might have died. With internet interactions, you never know what's going on on the other end of the chat. Someone could drop dead over their labtop, and you'd never hear from them again. Also, you never know what kind of hardships the other person is going through.

So hearing about Karilyn was kind of the first time my fear finally seemed founded - and I'm glad to hear that she's okay.

Like everyone else, I hope that she uses this second chance wisely - and maybe with any luck, this thread will show her that a LOT of people care about her and wish her well. Even near-complete strangers on this forum have been touched by her in some way or another.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  Greywander on Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:49 pm

Dusk Raven wrote:...I'm a little puzzled at my own reaction. I didn't even know her personally, but I'd recognized her name from the Friendship is Dragons comments, and... I don't know. I guess she left quite a memory, or maybe I'm more attached to people from FiD than I know.

Maybe it was just the part about suicide.
I thought my own reaction was strange, too, given that I didn't know her too well. I mean, obviously, it's sad when someone dies, but I was not expecting to be touched so deeply by this. I have a theory about why I felt this way, though. Spoilered for length.
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I'm pretty much a textbook example of someone aligned to Laughter. I'm not exactly like Pinkie Pie, for example, I'm rather quiet and timid, but one thing we both share is an extreme positiveness. I prefer to see the best in people, I'm quick to forgive, slow to hold a grudge, and tend to trust people implicitly. I'm basically the opposite of a cynic. Even in these admittedly bleak times, I can still find things to be happy about. So from this perspective, it baffles me that someone could feel so unhappy that they'd want to take their own life. It's just incomprehensible to me, plus the suddenness and unexpectedness of it made it a huge shock.

I remember when Edd Gould, creator of Eddsworld, passed away. I was saddened by that, but my reaction was much more subdued. For one thing, he died of cancer, so even if, to me, it was unexpected, the way the news was announced was completely different. It was unexpected and tragic, but it wasn't shocking. There was context to it, a reason why it happened that I could understand.

Another difference was that I had no personal connection to Edd Gould. He was a little younger than me, and had been running a web series for some time, so he was sort of someone I aspired to be like, but the relationship between us was always as content creator and consumer, not personal. Karilyn, by contrast, was someone who enjoyed reading a comic I also enjoy, and would share her thoughts in the comments. She helped create a wonderful roleplaying system, something that I watched unfold, and I, in turn, have strived to contribute to as well. Edd Gould was someone greater than myself who tragically passed away before his time, whereas I felt that Karilyn was a kindred spirit, someone like me, even if I didn't know her very well.

Re: Not understanding suicide, does anyone know what state she's in right now? Particularly emotionally? I'm wondering if we should make her some sort of "get well soon" card, but I'm not certain if that would be appropriate just now. Usually when someone has a close brush with death, they're happy to be alive and looking forward to getting back to their life, but this isn't exactly a typical case, and I'm not sure how to handle it.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  SilentBelle on Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:53 pm

Greywander wrote:
Dusk Raven wrote:...I'm a little puzzled at my own reaction. I didn't even know her personally, but I'd recognized her name from the Friendship is Dragons comments, and... I don't know. I guess she left quite a memory, or maybe I'm more attached to people from FiD than I know.

Maybe it was just the part about suicide.
I thought my own reaction was strange, too, given that I didn't know her too well. I mean, obviously, it's sad when someone dies, but I was not expecting to be touched so deeply by this. I have a theory about why I felt this way, though. Spoilered for length.
Spoiler:
I'm pretty much a textbook example of someone aligned to Laughter. I'm not exactly like Pinkie Pie, for example, I'm rather quiet and timid, but one thing we both share is an extreme positiveness. I prefer to see the best in people, I'm quick to forgive, slow to hold a grudge, and tend to trust people implicitly. I'm basically the opposite of a cynic. Even in these admittedly bleak times, I can still find things to be happy about. So from this perspective, it baffles me that someone could feel so unhappy that they'd want to take their own life. It's just incomprehensible to me, plus the suddenness and unexpectedness of it made it a huge shock.

I remember when Edd Gould, creator of Eddsworld, passed away. I was saddened by that, but my reaction was much more subdued. For one thing, he died of cancer, so even if, to me, it was unexpected, the way the news was announced was completely different. It was unexpected and tragic, but it wasn't shocking. There was context to it, a reason why it happened that I could understand.

Another difference was that I had no personal connection to Edd Gould. He was a little younger than me, and had been running a web series for some time, so he was sort of someone I aspired to be like, but the relationship between us was always as content creator and consumer, not personal. Karilyn, by contrast, was someone who enjoyed reading a comic I also enjoy, and would share her thoughts in the comments. She helped create a wonderful roleplaying system, something that I watched unfold, and I, in turn, have strived to contribute to as well. Edd Gould was someone greater than myself who tragically passed away before his time, whereas I felt that Karilyn was a kindred spirit, someone like me, even if I didn't know her very well.

Re: Not understanding suicide, does anyone know what state she's in right now? Particularly emotionally? I'm wondering if we should make her some sort of "get well soon" card, but I'm not certain if that would be appropriate just now. Usually when someone has a close brush with death, they're happy to be alive and looking forward to getting back to their life, but this isn't exactly a typical case, and I'm not sure how to handle it.

I think it would be a good idea for her to see this particular thread actually, just to know that we are all thinking about her and wish her well. Just to know that there are many people out there that think she's a wonderful person. I hope she also can see that we are all willing to talk to her and lend her support, she could send any of us a PM to share her thoughts and not feel bad about it.

I hope we see her soon.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  RavenscroftRaven on Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:37 am

May all the aid they require be granted. My own religious views or lack thereof aside, I hope those here who are in more casual contact get to chat again with her soon. Dying sucks, eh? I'd prefer most folks try to avoid it, there's usually a third option, but the experiencer won't always see it.

Some attempters I've known have become reclusive for a while after. Try to offer a caring hand, though, let 'em know you're there.
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Post  Cardbo on Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:54 pm

I saw this thread late, as I can be fairly singleminded in the way I view the forums, just visiting certain threads to the exclusion of others. Anyway I'm glad Karilyn's okay.

I don't know if she's clinically depressed, but if she is, I hope she's getting the medication for it.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  Karilyn on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:02 pm

The Short Version:

I'm not dead.  I was on a new anti-depressant which gave me suicidal delusions, and caused me to attempt to overdose. I was in a coma for over 24 hours, and I was lucky to survive.  I'm sorry everypony for the tears I caused to be shed.

The Extremely Long Version (As only The Illustrious Inky Quills can write):
I'm still a bit of a nervous wreck, and have developed a bit of an irrational fear of death as a result of my very real brush with death.  It's not a secret that I have had depression and bipolar syndrome for most of my life, as Dan mentioned in his announcement.  In an attempt to treat me, my psychiatrist placed me on a medication known as Zyprexa (generic: Olanzapine), which is used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.  The medication has rarely been know to cause patients on it to develop suicidal delusions, and to try to take their own life.  I was unlucky enough to be among these rare numbers.

After having been on Zyprexa for about a week, my life partner (known online as Ember (not a member of this forum)), noticed my behavior being odd, and suggested that I stop the medication and talk to my psychiatrist.  I did not take her advice, and insisted I should continue the medication, and that it would get better.  Then, on Friday the 1st, in a delusional mind, I drove home during the middle of work work, and swallowed two entire bottles of Benztropine (A medicine which was accidentally overprescribed the previous month), along with 3 cans of Monster Energy Drinks in an effort to stop my heart.

After taking the medication, I wrote to Zaina and Ember suicide letters.  Zaina told Dan about it, and he posted this thread.  It was about an hour I was on the medication before I started to hallucinate, and I wandered out of my bedroom into my living room, because I "suddenly realized I forgot to say goodbye to my roommate," where I collapsed on the living room floor, unable to stand up, and my roommate realized something was horribly wrong and called 911.  I lost consciousness in the ambulance, and I do not remember anything until Monday the 4th.  Sometime during this period, my adoptive mother told Zaina that I survived, and did not die.

I am told that I was in a coma for over 24 hours.  It was too late to pump my stomach, and the doctors gave me water through three different IVs in an effort to flush the medication out of my system.  I apparently was talking for two days before I have memories, but my talking was gibberish, and according to Ember, included glorious lines like, "When life gives you lemons, make Russian soup," and ramblings about my inability to chose between my favorite Pokemon.

I was conscious in the hospital for 5 days, until Friday the 8th, where I was considered stable enough to be transferred to a psych ward, where I stayed for the weekend, until I was released this morning.  I spent the day with Ember, and my adoptive mother, before getting online and discovering this thread which I now have to explain why I'm alive.
I'm sorry for the people I worried, and I am sorry for the tears I caused to be shed. I have been shaking all evening, out of fear over my close brush with death. I hope people can forgive my suicide attempt, and I will quietly resume my quiet background administration of this forum, unseen by the eyes of the populace.

EDIT:

You have no idea how much that made me cry. Thank you.


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Post  Paper Shadow on Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:10 pm

For those curious, there is apparently something that's known as Russian Lemon Soup. Google it...

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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  Greywander on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:28 pm

Karilyn! Of course we forgive you! We're just glad you're still with us. You make sure to take care of yourself, okay? We're all here for you if you need anything, so please, don't hesitate to ask. I'd give you a hug if I could over the internet.

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You have no idea how much that made me cry. Thank you.
Just because I don't know you too well doesn't mean I don't still care about you. 'Scuse me, I've got something in my eye.
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Re: A No-Longer-So-Tragic Announcement

Post  SilentBelle on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:46 pm

You have nothing to be sorry about Karilyn, we're just all relieved that you are okay. Welcome back Smile
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