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Re: Daily Ability Discussion

Post  Stairc -Dan Felder on Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:54 pm

They were designed to help enable "minion-boss" concepts, like necromancers, conjurers, disney princesses...

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Re: Daily Ability Discussion

Post  ZamuelNow on Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:45 pm

Eagle Eye (1)
You take no penalties to your Perception checks from weather or atmospheric conditions such as smoke, fog, rain, etc. You can also clearly see small objects and fine details up to a mile away.

Cunning Disguise (2) – At Will
Preparation Time: 10 minutes
Spend the preparation time studying a medium-sized creature. Once you have done so, that creature becomes your ‘mark’. You may add half of your Perception or Persuasion modifier (whichever is higher) as a bonus to any skill checks you make to impersonate that creature. You may only have one ‘mark’ at a time.

Alter Ego (2) – 3/Day
Preparation Time: 5 Minutes
Choose a race when you take this ability. You may spend 5 minutes to shift between your race’s natural appearance and one of your chosen race. However, this appearance is unique to you, so you cannot impersonate another specific individual. Furthermore, you always look the same in a particular race’s form. You may end the effect at any time, taking 1 minute to revert back to your natural form. You may take this ability multiple times, choosing a different race each time.



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Re: Daily Ability Discussion

Post  A1C Bronymous on Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:16 pm

Eagle Eye has always seemed a bit off to me. Either because it isn't as detailed in its explanation as it could be, or just because players are too liberal in interpreting it, but it doesn't ever seem to get used the way its meant to. I'll see people asking to get bonuses for their perception checks because of Eagle Eye, even though it only says you don't take penalties, and often it has nothing to do with weather conditions, but instead the "fine details"- they think that because they can see the details a mile away, it should doubly enhance their vision up close, which it doesn't. I don't understand the seeing through fog and stuff, either- birds can't do that. The Ability itself is fine, though, considering- when its used how its meant it works fine, nothing wrong with it.

Cunning disguise is meant for a spy, ninja, or assassin character, and its never seemed that useful to me. If I need something like that, I'll put points into persuasion and get one of the higher level disguise/shapeshifting Abilities.

...And Alter Ego would be something I take to supplement Cunning Disguise. I've only had one character that played with any kind of shapeshifting, and I went all out on the biggest one they had. Alter Ego would have been more useful that Cunning disguise in that regard, but I don't like the mechanics of it. You can shapeshift to another race, but according to the mechanical rules you're still limited by your own Abilities- so you can't adequately impersonate a griffon if you aren't something that can already fly, or a seapony if you can't breathe underwater, etc. Cunning Disguise has the same problem, the mechanics of these two don't take into account basic racial/species biology that is often represented through Abilities on the Character sheet. That's why I used the old GE Changeling's trickery, because when you changed to that race, you got a whole new Racial Trait list along with it, so you could do what that race could do, and lost what your own race could do.
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Re: Daily Ability Discussion

Post  ZamuelNow on Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:49 pm

I like the current form of Eagle Eye since the removal of the direct stat buff makes it less of a guaranteed pick and more of a choice. Seeing a mile away makes it an interesting power for some of the details you can setup for it.

Cunning Disguise & Alter Ego seem much more spy than shapeshifter oriented. I get why the old Changeling's Trickery doesn't exist since players don't use the default racials and if they don't, CT gives a ton of variable power like the old Element of Magic. There's a bit of cause and effect to it.
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Re: Daily Ability Discussion

Post  ZamuelNow on Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:04 pm

You Don’t Know Where It’s Been (3) – At Will
You can quickly hide any item smaller than yourself upon your person, making the object nigh-impossible to find. Make a Stealth check with a +15 bonus. The result becomes the DC for a perception check to beat in order to find the item. You can only have one such concealed item on your person at a time.

Dirty Look (3) – 1/Day
Target creature suffers a –10 penalty to its next skill check.


  • Hex (3)
    Prerequisite: Dirty Look
    Dirty Look now causes the target creature to take a –10 penalty to all skill checks for the next hour.


Light Trap (3) – 1/Day
Preparation Time: 10 Seconds
Pull all the light within 50 feet of you into a small object you are holding. For the next 1 minute or until the object is destroyed the area affected is completely black. Treat the area as if it was obscured by a cloud of total darkness.  You may release the light trapped within the object at any time you are not in combat, either returning the area to normal illumination or releasing the light in a brilliant flash that blinds all creatures seeing it for five seconds.

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You Don’t Know Where It’s Been is a decent enough thief skill.  Useful but beatable so it seems fair.

I really want to like Dirty Look and Hex but they're so incredibly dependent on the GM you have.  Dirty Look sorta feels like it needs to be an interrupt, especially if a GM is the type to metagame their players rather than play NPCs in character.

Light Trap is one of those powers that seems cool but it harmed by how specific it is and that there's mild redundancy issues with other light and blinding abilities.  It would be really aided by allowing you to hold the darkness for longer than a minute.
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Re: Daily Ability Discussion

Post  A1C Bronymous on Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:28 pm

Don't Know Where Its Been seems like a good skill to have, though still a little on the "situational" side. I've never come across a time when it needed to be used, but its usefulness is much more appreciable than some previous abilities.

Dirty Look and Hex fall into that category of Abilities that require a DM to make rolls, and for those rolls to be publicly made. A lot of DMs don't do the former, let alone the latter. I have actually used both of these to great extent- but only in trolling other party members with a character designed to be annoying and under everyone's feet. The only time it was used against NPCs was when the DM specifically designed NPC skill checks so everyone could make use of their level 10 Destinies.

Light Trap is a cool showoffy thing, like rabbit out of a hat or prestidigitation would be, but in games there aren't a lot of uses for it. Maybe to distract guards or sneak by something, but only lasting for a minute means it's still borderline unhelpful in some of those cases. The one time I actually used it, unfortunately, we discovered that the monsters attacked in the darkness, so it became entirely pointless.
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Re: Daily Ability Discussion

Post  ZamuelNow on Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:00 pm

Really hoped there'd be more participation.



Nimble Hooves (3) – 3/Day [Created by JasonShadow]
Gain a +5 bonus to a Mechanics check or any other check that deals with fine manipulation using your hooves, claws and similar.


  • Steady Hooves (2)
    Prerequisite: Nimble Hooves
    You may use your Nimble Hooves an additional 2 times per day.


Stealth Mode (3) – 3/Day
Preparation Time: 5 Seconds
You become invisible for the next five minutes or until you enter combat. While you are invisible, you gain a +10 bonus to your Stealth checks.

Leggo! (3) – 3/Day
Gain a +10 bonus to a skill check made to escape from physical restraints.

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Nimble Hooves is a basic enough "limited buff to this skill".  In theory it should be more limited than it is but many don't seem to use Mechanics for driving or aiming.  Steady Hooves is a simple buff filler.  Wound up surprised that the system didn't have more when the Ability revamp hit.

Stealth Mode is one of those powers that tends to feel needed for certain roles.  Nothing wrong with it but nothing exciting.

Leggo! is one of those powers that seems to be underused by virtue of campaign structure.  It needs a player who is often captured in a way that allows them to escape.  For some campaigns this turns out useless if the player is never caught or if it's something like a magical bubble.  What is useful is that it doesn't state the escaping skill so you can tie it to any number of ways to escape.
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Re: Daily Ability Discussion

Post  tygerburningbright on Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:47 pm

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Nimble Hooves
helps with filling a niche mechanics and thieves but well mechanics has never really been the best of defined skills meaning much of the power of the skill and therefor the talent varies from Dm to Dm. P
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In theory a decent buy for the value but well there are a lot of good talents that cost two points.

Stealth Mode
At certain points this was the must have skill if you are building a stealth focused character probability still is.
Now that I think about it (and the fact that they are right next to each other) it really is more powerful than hooves dispute having the same cost and number of uses, +5 on one check vs free pass against certain things and +10 on as many checks as you need to make.

Leggo!
never seen it ever actually used really its one of the reactive type of things that mostly depends on either the PCs failing or the DM railroading.
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Re: Daily Ability Discussion

Post  ZamuelNow on Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:50 am

Haste (3) – 3/Day
Preparation Time: Instantaneous
For the next 5 minutes, you or an ally you can see gains a +5 bonus to Athletics or Acrobatics checks made to move quickly (such as chasing down a thief or trying to outrun a boulder). This effect ends if you engage in combat.


  • Speedy (1)
    Prerequisite: Haste
    Increase the duration of Haste by 5 minutes. You may take this ability twice.


Art of the Dress (3) – Magic
Preparation Time: 5 Minutes
You may change the appearance of up to six willing creatures. For the next four hours they each appear as a similarly-sized creature of your choice.


  • Suited for Success (1)
    Prerequisite: Art of the Dress
    The effects of you Art of the Dress last for an additional two hours. You may take this ability twice.


Frozen Time (3) – Magic Interrupt [Created by Ramsus]
Trigger – You or an ally you can see makes a Precision check.
Effect – After seeing the result of the roll, you can choose to add a +20 bonus to the check.

OOC:
Haste is a basic enough ability for an athletic character is one of the few options for a speedster character.  Speedy is odd in that it's theoretically good but I can't think of many campaigns that would specifically state someone would need to run for 10 minutes or more.  I can see it having use in campaigns with more overt maps and charted speed.

Art of the Dress doesn't seem to show up a ton but I think it has a ton of usage for disguising identities.  While it costs a Magic Point, it just utterly foregoes mention of checks.  Suited for Success seems validly useful since the extra time allows prolonged interaction or perhaps falling asleep in the form without discovery.

Frozen Time is comparable to Yee Haw and the like--useful within the specific range.  The thing about this one is that the limited options for some things under the Precision check means it benefits from it more.
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