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Re: Oh, The Places You'll Go - S5 Pony Discussion

Post  Zarhon on Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:05 pm

You know what time it is, y'all!

The episode where Larson ruins everything.:
- Rock track!

- Taaaaaank!

- So apparently, seasons arrive much like the ice-cream does.

- Episode callbacks!

- Tank is not interested in your egghead ways.

- Oh yay, winter.

- That is actually cool looking sledding.

- That's right ladies, he's available.

- House MD would diagnose it as super-cancer.

- WINTRY FRIEEEEENDS!

- "I'm not saying he's dying, but he's totally dying."

- "It's a veneral disease. Which brings me to my next question..."

- ANIMAL LESSON TIME FROM FLUTTERSHY-SAMA!

- Why does that bear have an actual teddy bear?

- Stage 1: Stupidity.

- Rainbow does waaay too many drugs to know how sleeping works.

- Pictured: The opposite of an expert.

- Also, concussions. How is it not dead yet?

- "We still have 15 minutes of animal abuse to go through!"

- "Screw that crazy mare, I'm digging in while I can."

- Stage 2: Triggered.

- Beavers confirmed for Judaism.

- U WOT M8!

- Context!

- She mad.

- Scrunchy face!

- Alas, her alcoholism is rubbing off on Tank too.

- Stage 2: UNFATHOMABLE ABYSS OF STUPIDITY. NONE WHO ENTER MAY LEAVE WITH THEIR COMMON SENSE UNBRUISED. Also, Grinch face.

- This is a pretty elaborate joke.

- Cartoon horse physics!

- Villain song time! Because she's totally doing terrorism and ruining lives.

- Or make grenades.

- Yes, skiis are essential for the season.

- OP is a duck.

- Pictured: bureaucracy in a nutshell.

- Well, there's your solution: Get an atrium and heater. Not destroy the ecosystem.

- Behold, the magical morphing snowball head!

- "I've nuked cities for less than this."

- She's still got the skills to be a ballerina.

- "Too long, didn't listen."

- "It's like they've got an industry in making weather!"

- Stage 3: Good old-fashioned terrorism!

- Cloudsdale is laughably easy to infiltrate. How is it not conquered yet?

- How did she unscrew those?

- Good thing they have tortoise-sized uniforms.

- "Don't worry, you're almost done with your animal abuse quota."

- Lure one of the CMC near it.

- And they can't provide anyone with life-nourishing liquid. Yup, good plan there.

- ISIS would be proud.

- One dead tortoise, coming right up.

- Who puts rocks in a snow barrel?

- And then she died from horrific burn injuries.

- Or the massive trauma!

- Or from being sucked into a propeller!

- Or centrifugal trauma!

- Or explosive decompression!

- Or Larson being a terrible human being!

- Why is she still alive?!

- And then everyone dies in a horrific avalanche.

- Or not.

- "I stole literally everything of value you own. Your houses have shitty security."

- "Well, she does have a bounty for acts of terrorism.."

- Steal her slippers!

- Fluttershy's laying it down hard.

- Stage 4: Feels!

- "Also, revenge. Sweet, sweet revenge."

- "You've got dead parents, you know how to fix it!"

- IT'S CONTAGIOUS!

- "I swear, I have a soul! Somewhere out there!"

- Well, that takes the fun out of dead parent jokes. And makes her eligible for being Batmare.

- Destroy an ecosystem or two, probably.

- Who makes Dashie-slippers? Where did a market for those come from?

- "And by hibernate, I mean never appear again this season."

- Rarity's upping her communist fashion.

- "Finally, I can die!"



So! Wow. This episode, for all it's 'mild' appearance, is pretty damn deep as far as it's psychology goes.
Spoiler:
- Rainbow goes through all the stages of grief, more or less. Denial (second opinion, etc), anger (snapping at her friends), bargaining (let's end winter!), depression (baaaaaaaaw!), and finally, acceptance (daaaaw!).

- One of Rainbow's motivations appears to be fear of loneliness (it's an actual song line!).

- Rainbow super-cares about Tank in the off-screen time. Enough to justify acts of complete wonton destruction! And this is just her pet! She either sees it on a higher level than her friends (family? Does she still have one?), or she'd do even worse in the name of her friends. The song also pretty much affirms that Rainbow Dash doesn't give a damn about non-Tank at that point and knows the full severity of her actions! Very close to becoming a villain in her own right!

- Applejack also has psychological issues, which will never come to light. Just like her super-dead parents.

- Fluttershy is acting up on the lesson she learned from the breezies.

- Twilight apparently is not the crying type, or is in fact soulless and very good at hiding the fact.

In non-psychology stuff:
- The moral is very in-tune with what kids need to learn: Coping with the loss of a pet. Real subject, lessened in severity, but still treated seriously.

- Slippers! Adorable tank/Dashie slippers.

- An absolutely fantastic portrayal of the 'whos on first' joke. Which is surprising it took so long, given how perfect the setting is for that kind of thing!

- More insight on weather-crafting stuff!

- Dashie gets away with a complete act of terrorism with zero casualties! Hooray! The only real nonsensical part of this episode.

- Apparently, cloud houses are as secure as a wet blanket. Robbing a pegasus must be ludicrously easy. Or Pinkie cannot be contained by mere clouds. We also learn that the houses are probably stable enough to support non-pegasi, or that the Mane Six have a good method of reaching her home (balloon? Wingpower?).

- A look into Spike's new room!

- Angel needs to hibernate as well, as well as the tea-sipping bear. So, Fluttershy is pretty lonely during that time, other animals notwithstanding.

- Moar Daring Do book cover! This one without a title and pretty blurry, though.
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Re: Oh, The Places You'll Go - S5 Pony Discussion

Post  Cardbo on Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:30 pm

Rainbow Dash confirmed for Crazy Cat Turtle Lady later in life.
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Post  TheCavalry on Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:15 am

I was not expecting anything from Tanks for the Memories, but damn was I wrong. Glad to see I wasn't the only one who got the impression that the episode was "about" Tank dying.

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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:03 pm

I feel like this was a water-tester by the showrunners to see how they could broach into real-world subjects like death, and I can't say I'm sure they pulled it off or not. Throughout the episode they put every effort into insisting that Tank was just going into hibernation, no mention made of death of any kind. Then though, if you take it at face value, you have an entirely out of character reaction from Rainbow Dash, at least in my opinion. Like your friend is going on a trip for summer or something, Tank's just going to not be around for a little bit, and Rainbow completely loses it? It doesn't make sense, unless we accept that she and the rest of the mane 6 are still basically children. That, or she has the object permanence of a dog. Utilizing the 5 stages of Grief also drives home the hint at death, but again, since it isn't a permanent situation, they don't fit quite right.

Coming from this, especially in the Denial Stage, wherein Dash refuses to say "Hibernation"- because apparently its so tragic- then the show itself backtracks on itself. While everyone else is being sympathetic to the death of a pet that isn't actually happening, Twilight outright has no idea what the fuss is about. She is written in a way that undermines the entire theme of helping a friend cope with loss, which seems counterproductive. If the episode was about loss and/or death, you would think she would follow along a little better in contrivance, like the others, rather than diametrically oppose their sympathy with the logic of a viewer.

It seems to me like they wanted to introduce a heavy subject, but were unwilling to use heavy subject matter, and the result was confusing at best. All that aside, though, it was still a very entertaining episode, even if the "Winter is Coming" line gave me a concussion from facedesking so hard.

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Re: Oh, The Places You'll Go - S5 Pony Discussion

Post  Zarhon on Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:49 pm

A1C Bronymous wrote:It seems to me like they wanted to introduce a heavy subject, but were unwilling to use heavy subject matter, and the result was confusing at best. All that aside, though, it was still a very entertaining episode, even if the "Winter is Coming" line gave me a concussion from facedesking so hard.
I don't think it's a matter of "unwilling" so much as "not allowed to by Hasbro/higher-ups". It's still a kids show in the long run, and they've intentionally avoided even mentioning death (the closest was Dash yelling at Lightning Dust how she almost 'destroyed' her friends) so far. It's implied, of course, that it's there (AJ's parents, a funeral, the implied consequences of the various villains...), but they can't quite break the ice without 'moral guardians' freaking out or something, or the apparent risk of kiddies 'learning' about death. Given such restrictions, it's close enough to be recognizable or relate-able for the moral.

The "Winter is Coming" is entirely Larson's fault.
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Re: Oh, The Places You'll Go - S5 Pony Discussion

Post  Zarhon on Sat May 02, 2015 8:42 pm

New episode! Now with more AJ being overshadowed by a background character!

Have some more carefully-spoilered messages.
Spoiler:
- Welcome to Hatville! Wear a hat, or else!

- "We're under contract to never be more than a city apart, Applebloom."

- That mare is overenthusiastic with that rope.

- Rodeo clowns. The nerds of regular clown.

- And by dangerous you mean 'The CMC are present'.

- "Unless you're under the effects of status quo, in which case it's all risk, never reward."

- The shadow horse nose!

- F.R.I.E.N.D.S.

- [Rodeo intensifies]

- Pay no attention to the crippling horse injury which will eventually demand a bullet to cure.

- "Tag. You're the designated butt monkey this episode."

- Well, guess they're lost in the deserts, dying of thirst by now.

- Dang.

- "My hat is a cactus. Your argument is invalid."

- Even the fillies are calling bull.

- "We have yet to destroy the very concept of rodeo with our powers."

- IT'S A HORSESHOEEEEEEE nope, not interesting.

- I can't tell if I should laugh or cringe at that joke.

- Torches & Pitchforks ltd. will have to do business elsewhere.

- How do they know his name?

- Have you learned nothing from Sarnath?!

- Finally, a smart decision from the Truth Pony.

- Oh silly Braeburn, you can't contain destruction incarnate.

- You dun goofed.

- This is how you earn photos on milk cartons, kids!

- Sweetie Belle, the voice of reason? EVERYTHING I KNOW IS A LIE!

- That's an awesome looking owl.

- Why is there a thick forest in the middle of this desert?

- And then they got eaten by timberwolves. Cut to happy credits.

- Guess who's getting his other legs broken!

- Ride on what?

- You dun goofed.

- Look, a plot hook!

- Say hello to mr. Serial Killer!

- He... dun... goofed?

- It takes skill to give someone brain damage without actually doing anything. Hats off to you, CMC.

- Well someone's being an Eeyore.

- The CMC are working on overdrive tonight.

- Why the enlarged posterior?!

- I can imagine pig latin being racist in Equestria.

- Damn it, stop taking the fun out of this.

- Not if you get money out of the deal. That's how bounties work.

- One does not simply avoid flashback.

- Moral of the story: Sometimes you are the woobie.

- So the plan is to make is life a mockery... professionally?

- You dun' goofed, fillies.

- When in doubt, say nothing to keep people in jail.

- Sweetie Belle's game face.

- "We must publicly humiliate you for your own good!"

- The answer, like all things the CMC do, is 'terribly'.

- Like a dweeb.

- [RODEO INTENSIFIES]

- "Your life's a joke, so get over it!"

- Silence, background pony. The main characters are doing things.

- RUNNING ONLY DELAYS THE SODOMY!

- Don't think we forgot about you, butt monkey.

- This would be a whole other episode if that was Fluttershy.

- Time for a lynching!

- "His life is a joke..."

- Finally, the bozo accepts his lot in life. Collapse of society thwarted!

- Somepony's grounded forever.

- Moral of the episode: AJ will always gets overshadowed in country episodes. ALWAYS.
Also an embed.



So, what did we learn this episode?

- Cutie Marks show up when you 'realize' what your destiny/future will be, but not necessarily when you realize how that will come to pass.

- Cutie Marks can make private life miserable if you don't obey them. Those janitor ponies got it rough.

- A new type of pony 'build'! Big Mac is no longer the token 'big guy', as this one is modeled after a realistic horse!

- Sweetie Belle is improving her magic!

- AJ will always get the spotlight stolen from her. ALWAYS.
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Post  Cardbo on Sun May 03, 2015 12:15 pm

Going to go out on a limb here and venture that CMC do get their cutie-marks this season. They have been building up to it. This is already the second episode this season featuring them, and frankly I can't really see them dragging it out for any longer.
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Post  Paper Shadow on Sun May 03, 2015 4:11 pm

Cardbo wrote:Going to go out on a limb here and venture that CMC do get their cutie-marks this season.  They have been building up to it.  This is already the second episode this season featuring them, and frankly I can't really see them dragging it out for any longer.
Between the 1st/2nd, 4th, and 6th episode, it would seem that Cutie Marks are a core feature of this season. However, it might be just an overload of CMC episodes at the front. I mean, just look at the last season. Remember the buildup to the Equestrian Games which just turned out to be Spike At Your Service 2? Or the whole "episodes with a ponies name in it = they get their key in that episode" theory?

I would not put it pass the writers to dangle a string in front of the audience and pull a bait and switch...

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Post  Zarhon on Wed May 06, 2015 2:58 pm

The show's creators already revealed that the season will feature 'Cutie Mark Magic' as a central or overarching theme for Season 5.

As for whether the CMC will actually get their cutie marks? Depends. These few early episodes were already hype-inducing that the CMC might get their cutie marks, and the previews were also pretty trolly/debunked on the subject.

Not to mention that it would mean the writers have to make a new 'gimmick' for the CMC, get them to grow out of 'dangerously-irresponsible-actions-for-cutie-marks' as a easy comic relief method. Unless their club expands for more members and they become 'mentors' of sorts, of course. They even sort of 'enforced' this with the last dream episode, allowing for more leeway for the writers to keep them blank-flanks.

But at the same time, we know that the show isn't afraid of making changes to the status quo (Twilight's wings, her new castle, losing the Elements of Harmony...), so it's not implausible that they're saving it for a finale.

But it's likely either going to be:
a) Spread over three episodes (one for each, presumably when they can't interfere/interact with each other, akin to how Spike's pet-sitting was handled). This is unlikely though, since that can wreak havoc on the season for those cases when episodes are aired in a random/incorrect order for that season, leading to discontinuity or unintended spoilers for future airings.
b) Condensed into a single one (finale or penultimate episode, all three get them at once).

It's also a possibility that the same reveal will include:
- Scootaloo getting over her flying-handicap for good (as seen in dream).
- A reveal of what Applebloom's talent is actually supposed to be (it's vague and possibilities are pretty wide, so far).
- Sweetie Belle's doing something big/cool/amazing with her in-training horn magic. It's quite possible that Sweetie Belle will get 'dragged' to her Cutie Mark, just like her sister was!
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Re: Oh, The Places You'll Go - S5 Pony Discussion

Post  Zarhon on Sat May 16, 2015 7:45 pm

After a two-week break, it's finally time for a new episode! This week, we have Discord in the spotlight!

Snappy Episode Commentary!
Spoiler:
-And here we see the elusive best ponies in their natural habitat. Such marvelous creatures...

- I sense obvious hippie jokes.

- 1/10 dentists approve of ceramics.

- SHIPPING ALERT, SHIPPING ALERT! DANGER! DANGER!

- That outfit is familiar, yet its reference eludes me.

- Time for another counter: This time, it's the Discord Douche Display (DDD)! Starting off with #1: Cake theft.

- REEEEEEENDSSSSSS!

- Remember kids, inter-dimensional beings of chaos can molest you whenever and wherever they want.

- Well, the gala is doomed. Again.

- It must be awkward to play a game that's effectively about... you.

- FEELS! Followed by bad touch.

- This episode has plenty of faces.

- Rainbow is bad at cards.

- Dang, guess he'll have to reset the episode now.

- There is no context. Only the realization of one's swiftly fleeting mortality in the face of The Death Of All Things.

- All the faces.

- NOTHING IS SAFE ANYMORE!

- HIPPIE JOKES DETECTED.

- Pinkie's going to have a hell of a time finding the Cake's bodyparts again.

- Well, you're not.

- DDD #2: General asinine behavior.

- He mad.

- Why do I like the hippie stereotype so much?

- MEANWHILE ON REDDIT. Bonus note for the thinking tree continuity.

- Get it? It's dust bunnies! LAUGH DAMN YOU.

- Housecleaning: You're doing it wrong.

- It's not easy being a moderator these days.

- Somepony's vocal cords gone and went Twist.

- You gon' die, son.

- And thus he went on to die horribly.

- ...Eaten by monsters, no less.

- SCHEMING!

- "And by enjoying, I mean watching with sadistic glee."

- He looks good in a reference tux.

- Crystal ponies would like him.

- DDD #3: Ew.

- Quick reminder that Discord is cosplaying as a chaos sorcerer.

- TONIGHT, SEMPAI MUST NOTICE ME!

- The CMC wranglers regret their decisions, but take comfort that all their pain will soon be blissfully over.

- I'm not sure if I should feel proud or ashamed that I know the word meaning of every hippie-ism she's spouting in this episode.

- DDD #4: Hacking at a deaf pony.

- I feel like this season the creators are just testing how far they can go with pissing at the censors. What with the memory-blasted stoner.

-  DDD #5: I don't even need a reason for this one.

- I'm starting to think that Equestria's concept of a mild recreational drug would murder an entire hospital.

- I've seen enough kids shows to see where this is going.

- DDD #6: Crushed hopes and dreams.

- Maybe I should do an 'awkward' meter as well.

- Did someone say awkward face?

- SHIPPING ALERT, ALL HANDS TO BATTLE STATIONS!

- This is how most fanart turns out.

- DDD #7: Dissing best monster.

- Somepony's indecent.

- Nice to see Equestria's policy on theft prevention is still non-existent.

- HE MAD, SYMBOLICALLY.

- This is painful. I weep for whoever had to record John De Lancie do this, as he reveled in the pain and misery he was producing.

-

- Why hello there, little poltergeist/shining reference.

- You dun goofed.

- So apparently, Celestia's true weakness is any and all food products, and obvious 'jammed' jokes.

- Meanwhile, Applebloom is suffocating.

- Pinkie Pie gives no fucks. Maud has so few, she can float.

- What.

- Please tell me she's not going to save the day.

- Yup, this is a thing that is happening.

- WHHHHEHHHEENNNNNEEHHHH

- Clearly, we have a new member to the Mane Six.

- He mad, chaotically.

- Took her a while to start tripping major balls.

- Suffer not the Hippie to live, apparently.

- Why do we even have the Mane Six around anymore? And what's Celestia doing, besides laughing?

- Well, so much about their shipping. Now it's just gonna be super awkward and transfer to Tree Hugger.

- Moral get! John De Lancie is still a terrible creature though.

- Pay no mind to the pony about to be subjected to a fate worse than death.

- Translation: Stranger danger.

- That is a very specific party condition.

- Celestia's idea of fun involves 'acceptable losses'.



So, quick notes!

- Celestia's attitude and scheme is both terrifying and refreshing. Can't help but feel like it's foreshadowing a descent into madness. She also proves rather anti-potent, along with the Mane Six.

- Against all odds, the CMC didn't ruin a public, formal event. They also come along with their sisters and family surrogates.

- The segment of the party seemed a bit... drawn out. Lots of focus on Discord's juvenile rage, whilst good for the plot, isn't all that entertaining after you've seen it several times already, and the 'stand up comedy' segment was too painful for artistic/entertainment purposes. Discord was surprisingly non-chaotic for its procession as well - up to a point, at least.

- Smooze picks up on Discord's lack of funny with his distracting innocent antics.

- Discord is a major douche again, but apparently that's okay because he is so detached from reality he doesn't understand basic principles. Welp.

- Tree Hugger! She's a hippie! Yup. Can't tell if I like her for her lines, or just how surprisingly well her blatant, over-the-top stereotyping puts her in the same background-pony boat as Maud.

- The Pink One proves yet again to be a horrifying prospect for a Chaos Spawn, and yearns for the day she will claim your soul.
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sat May 16, 2015 8:10 pm

I'm roughly... 8 minutes into the episode, and my brain is shutting down from all the references and cameos. Firstly, the Gala is happening again, and with Twilight sharing the responsibilities this year it seems Celestia managed to find a dress to wear this time. Discord is Discord, but oh my god he brought the smooze to the gala. What.

This episode is nuts.
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Post  Cardbo on Sun May 17, 2015 1:52 am

>_>

<_<

And no mentioned the Metal Gear Solid reference?
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Post  Paper Shadow on Sun May 17, 2015 6:21 am

Cardbo wrote:>_>

<_<

And no mentioned the Metal Gear Solid reference?
Zarhon wrote:- Dang, guess he'll have to reset the episode now.

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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun May 17, 2015 5:03 pm

Oh yeah, that too. Sorry, mind was incredibly blown. Hard to find all the pieces.
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Post  Paper Shadow on Mon May 18, 2015 3:04 pm

So, seeing how the season is now one quarter over, any opinions on how the season as a whole has been turning out?

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Post  Zarhon on Sat May 23, 2015 11:49 pm

New episode! Now with a metric butt-tonne of continuity and griffon material! (Pony Tales players, make sure to greed-up your griffons appropriately)


For those wanting commentary, have a spoiler tag with far too much text.
Spoiler:
- The Pink one cometh!

- This whole segment becomes a lot funnier/sadder when you remove Gummy from it.

- Meanwhile, the Cakes are slowly going bankrupt from all the supplies Pinkie is wasting.

- Gummy upgraded to a longer tongue.

- Nobody can bake for 15hrs and remain blissful. Or thin.

- The plot hooks, they tingle.

- Obligatory face.

- Apparently, Gummy is perfectly fine with not being carnivorous.

- [SHIPPING INTENSIFIES]

- And then the whole place burns down, igniting Ponyville buildings and citizens indiscriminately.

- Nice tree.

- Stereotype much, Dashie?

- Storytime!

- So basically, they're a race of Scrooge McDucks.

- Alternately, they got it from a thrift store.

- And thus, their nos-uh, beaks would be held up high for generations to come.

- She's a griffony.

- "Rarity's too drunk, Fluttershy's on therapy, and Applejack has dead parents to grieve over."

- The Element of [s]Sloth[/s] Loyalty, everypony!

- I'm sure she'll feel better once she murders something.

- It's called fanfiction, Dashie.

- Well, that's that. Episode's over. No way they're topping this.

- Pinkie Pie: A role model to starving, obese and/or impoverished children everywhere.

- Suddenly, documentary mode!

- Wow, tooting your own horn there much, Twilight?

- I would have said birdshit-hole, but that works too.

- Move b****, get out da way! His face is pretty funny with the heart-shape, too.

- "The confirmation of my racist stereotypes bring me much satisfaction."

- PLOT TWIST! For absolutely nopony.

- Oh Pinkie.

- "TLDR."

- "I'm old and disgusting, which qualifies me as a reliable source of exposition."

- "I'm also a racial/religious stereotype."

- Gilda is the Chandler of this episode.

- Those damn cyclopean yeti-goats and their thieving ways.

- Sad? No. Hilarious? Heck yes.

- "We're a race of angst-filled teenagers!"

- "Alternately, I'll be dead at the bottom of a ditch. One of the two."

- Yup, no hero complex here.

- Dash disapproves of your shopkeeper logic.

- Nice rock music motif for Gilda there.

- Pinkie's schizophrenia is getting worse these days.

- [MAXIMUM OVERSHIPPING]

- Social services? Healthcare? Economic support?

- Denied! By the law!

- There are so many reaction gifs in this episode.

- First Equestrian Problems.

- They're made of meat, and she knows it.

- Don't worry, she has Celestiacare.

- [STEREOTYPES INTENSIFY]

- Gilda's selling this episode.

- Logic and disgusting hoarding habits to the rescue!

- You and your alliterative ways.

- Now she's just somepony that she used to know.

- Pinkie isn't slacking off either.

- "Well, I guess I'll just leave her to die."

- You'd think she'd have learned from the last time.

- Pinkie Pie's being both a dumbass and a smartflank today.

- "Let me spend a few minutes staring wistfully in a flashback whilst a pony is in immediate mortal peril."

- WARNING! DAWW'S AT CRITICAL LEVELS!

- ABORT! ABORT!

- Activate tsundere protocol.

- Don't be a smartflank, Pinkie.

- Aaand then she kills not one, but three creatures with her stupidity.

- In one corner, a racial stereotype! In the other, basic ethics! Round 1, fight!

- A stable economic system? A cash influx? Law enforcement? Housing?

- "And healthcare! Because you're bound to die off within a generation otherwise."

- Initiate awkward shipping.

- Wow, what an obvious sales pitch.

- Think of it as the start of your spinoff show / Emmy episode.

- "Haha, no. See you in 2-3 seasons."

- Oh Pinkie, you and your adorable mental disorders.

- You dun goofed... I guess? At least it's not on fire.

And the TLDR version:

- Gummy is adorable but useless.

- Twilight Sparkle is pretty well mocked this episode, and apparently she's grown to join the griffony fandom. Poor girl can't get a break these days.

- Pinkie Pie and baking powder sales pitch save the day! Lots of fun scenes from her in general, and she saves the day!

- Rainbow Dash gets to be the damsel this episode, and as is to be expected, is 'wrong' compared to Pinkie Pie.

- We have another 'confirmed' death of a creature, namely of the Arimaspi monster. It arguably got a better deal than Sombra, though.
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- Gilda returns! Much more snarky than before, but justified given the conditions she lives in.

- Gilda origins! They're adorable.

- Gilda friendship missionary/ambassadorship get! Now we can have a griffon-oriented spinoff show!

- Griffon society! Apparently, Griffonstone is a shit-hole full of racist greedy stereotypes.

- New griffon designs/clothing!
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun May 24, 2015 12:06 am

I think you missed the part where Twilight named Griffonstone as a greater and better Kingdom than Equestria, which I'm sure pleases the almighty hell out of Sunbutt. Also, we know what the Griffon Kingdoms are called now. Kinda wish the huge goat demon (read: basically Satan) had more screen time. And there was no reason they couldn't have grabbed the idol once Gilda pulled them up.
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Post  Zarhon on Sun May 24, 2015 1:11 am

A1C Bronymous wrote:I think you missed the part where Twilight named Griffonstone as a greater and better Kingdom than Equestria, which I'm sure pleases the almighty hell out of Sunbutt. Also, we know what the Griffon Kingdoms are called now. Kinda wish the huge goat demon (read: basically Satan) had more screen time. And there was no reason they couldn't have grabbed the idol once Gilda pulled them up.
Well they were kinda pride filled so I think that's just the book author making the history look way nice. They were pretty up-stuck on being 'greater than everyone' (grandpa's words) with that idol which essentially just made them super-proud somehow. Basically half of their 'great culture' was based on being snobs who refuse to accept any help or acknowledge that something's wrong. They probably had an economic depression during their 'golden age' as well.

The idol kinda fell into what might be an actual abyss/bottomless pit, and none of them would be able to fly (let alone climb) safely. Dashie was injured to boot, and it might have been too difficult to find the idol afterwards (if it was intact after the fall).

The goat's an Arimaspi, apparently. It's probably too OP for the Mane Six to fight whilst maintaining a friendship lesson. Heck, griffons couldn't fight it, and they're metal as heck.
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun May 24, 2015 1:27 am

I meant they could have grabbed it off the ledge as they were pulled up 3.5 inches away from it, instead of staring at it for 10 seconds and then watching fall into the big hole.

The show has set the precedent for fighting almighty demons with pure actual offensive magic, instead of friendship cannons, but I actually meant more screentime in the historical/mythological context. @/3 of the mane 6 weren't there and Twilight wasn't hulking off of the powers of 3 other alicorns, AND still no new Elements to use, so I don't think they would have had a shot against him either.
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Post  Cardbo on Sun May 24, 2015 3:05 am

- Very literal Friend or Idol Decision

Apart from that, Griffons seem to have a Mongolian type of culture with some Russian and Himilayan influences. If this weren't a kids show, I wouldn't be surprised is the Griffins consumed large amounts of Vodka.

Alternately, Diamond Dogs are no longer the fantasy Dwarves of Equestria, Griffons are.
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Post  Paper Shadow on Sun May 24, 2015 6:51 am

A1C Bronymous wrote:I meant they could have grabbed it off the ledge as they were pulled up 3.5 inches away from it, instead of staring at it for 10 seconds and then watching fall into the big hole.
Losing the idol was symbolism for Gilda losing her greedy desires, choosing the path of friendship instead. Or something like that...

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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun May 24, 2015 4:36 pm

Yes, but it was STUPID. Porque no los dos? Not only would she have proven her capability of friendship, but if she returned with the Idol AND offered up the new scones, she could have become Twilight Sparkle Griffon and begun spreading the good news and friendships across Griffonstone far more quickly. As it stands, she herself is more friendly but Griffonstone as a whole will not have improved much from her handing out free scones- at least not for a long time before griffons figure out the whole "one good turn" idea.
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Post  Zarhon on Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:33 pm

Might want to spoiler that, Paper. If only because it's huge.

Anyway, have the usual video and discussion for what's the Best Episode Fandom Ever Forever (BEFEF).

In sum: Wow. Just wow.

Wordtalky commentary.
Spoiler:
- Let's start Best Episode (BE).

- Cranky is pissed at losing all his money in Vegas.

- He also hates Christmas sweaters, like all other males.

- And don't get him started on Larson.

- Using glue with your mouth sounds like a recipe for disaster. Do they have to make it edible?

- Instead of a wedding tomorrow, you get a divorce today! Can't get a deal like that anywhere!

- When in doubt, flee with SO. Or throw her.

- YOU DUN GOO-Oh who am I kidding I can't stay mad at you ever.

- Run, Purplesmart, run.

- Being a bigger ass than the groom is a contributing factor.

- That machine has no purpose save to squirt ink at ponies and other non-paper.

- And then, a million Whoovians squealed in a wholly unmanly fashion. Also known as UNLEASH THE PANDA.

- Well, this is a Dr. Who episode now. Sorry bronies.

- He ages gracefully for a centennial pony.

- Rocketship Derpy Muffins, in all her glory.

- Doc, you're making me need transcripts again.

- Tesla: Making everything awesome since 1888. Plasma balls are the best.

- [INSERT ELECTRICITY-BASED SHIPPING JOKE HERE].

- [SHIPPING ELECTRIFIES].

- Who makes fireworks that can't ignite? That's like making ice that doesn't cool things.

- The only way to ruin scrunchy face is going full scrunchy face.

- Dr. Who references are off the chart, captain!

- "I accidentally the wedding."

- ACTIVATE THE SECONDARY PANDAS!

- You dun goofed, ear-damaged pony.

- [POP CULTURE INTENSIFIES, MAN].

- A brief reminder to the audience that these are in fact miniature pastel-colored equines with butt blemishes.

- I can feel my Mechanical Engineering PTSD coming back to me.

- PANDAS, PART THREEEEE!

- What the British?!

- The CMC are well-versed on their meta.

- Now nobody can accuse them of inappropriate pandering.

- "Why, you look mildly relevant to the previous MLP generations!"

- "I'm not complaining because I get paid for everything she does for free in my name."

- PANDA-RING USED NOOGIE!

- It's not like she can ruin flowers in a comedic fashion, right? Right?

- How do those three function in normal society?

- Oh snap it's almost-Twilight!

- "Except all the the dirty kinky lesbian sex, of course."

- They missed a perfect opportunity to call it a Bumblebear or a Pandaring.

- It takes skill to make something so cringe-worthy, panda-worthy, and fanfiction-mocking as that, all at the same time, and making it funny to boot.

- "OUR LESBIANS WAS A LIE?"

- And a meta-reference to top it off. Well played, show creators.

- The Pink One gives no fucks about killer bee-bears.

- Yup, nothing at all can go wrong. Except the bowling. That's ruined forever.

- Stop saying "Great Wickering Stallions"! It's a terrible catchphrase and will never catch on!

- Chill, doc. It's not like they'll cause the ruination of a previously-ruined Town Hall Salon.

- Yes, butt-slap the bear. That will help.

- [French intensifies].

- It's Steven Universe, minus the gems, and triple the metrosexual!

- WHEN IN DOUBT, INCITE FEAR MONGERING!

- I really dig that dual-house design.

- [Music intensifies].

- Man, I can't think of any jokes for this.

- [MUSIC INTENSIWUBICLASIFIES].

- Don't pop your collar like that. It's lewd. Breaking your bowstring is worse!

- Were they about to brutally clobber each other?

- ALL ABOARD THE PANDA EXPRESS.

- FIRST STOP, FONZIEVILLE!

- Ink doesn't work like that. Unless it's Splatoon.

- Is that a salt lick peripheral on the arcade machine?

- NOTHING ESCAPES THE PANDAS. ALL SHALL BE PANDERED.

- Someone got a face-full of groceries.

- You were this close to making a perfect episode. And you ruined it with that stupid thing.

- Obligatory secret horse.

- Wat.

- Nothing says 'I care' like being the wealthiest in the land and not bringing a present. Even Spike's present is huge!

- Cadence is rethinking her marriage.

- "Yes, soon, all shall burn!"

- Lyra sits like she likes to! She's got no bucks about anything else (except Bon Bon).

- Moral of the story: Get a horrifying secret and tell it to all your friends. They'll like you for it!

- "YOU THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH DR. WHO REFERENCES, YOU NAIVE FOOLS?!"

- When in doubt, befriend a metrosexual sea monster.

- "This is my show now, bitches."

- "Love, and horrifying monsters hell-bent on enslaving us all."

- The two sisters have seen enough divorces to know what it's really all about.

- "Which is why we're culling the old ones."

- Nothing like a good old ass joke to finish a wedding.

- Well, they're about to die in horrifying flames.

- Or not.

- "ONE LAST REFERENCE TO REMAIN IMMORTAL!"

- IN OUR TOWN, IN OUR TOWN...

- "That's what you get for butt-slapping it, dumbass."



TLDR notes of things of relevance:
Secrets and liessss:
- Octavia and Vinyl live together in a literally-color-divided house!

- Derpyyyyyyyyyyyy or rather Muffins. All yes. Works at postal office. Is best.

- Dr. Whooooooooo! He thinks in math. Also, Rose, Muffins, Allons-y, Tardis-lab, centuries, SCIENCE.

- Gummy is deep, man.

- The Flower Trio as socially dysfunctional all the time.

- Luna and Celestia fight over who left the wedding gift behind, and do nothing about monster. Business as usual!

- Shining is a crybaby.

- The 'Bugbear' is a Tartarus escapee. And Celestia had a team devoted to it?

- Right before the dub-wagon gets snagged in Twicane, there's a short frame of what is probably the show makers with horse-head masks.

- The 'official names', according to the voice actor credits, are: Muffins (Derpy), Steven Magnet, Octavia Melody, "Lebowski Pony", Doctor (no extras, just 'Doctor'), Lotus Blossom, and... "Waiter".

- Lebowski Pony makes a reference/joke out of his usage of 'man'.

- The formula Doctor 'calculates' is a legitimate formula for force, acceleration, torque, and other math that an engineer would use for caluculate the movement of a bowling ball.

- The Changeling appears to be a foal/child (it's sitting with the other foals, and is smaller than the chair, compared to the adults. Yay for Doomie still being a name. Or not. Sorry Doomie.

- The 'Town Hall' we all know and love is apparently a 'Salon'.

- Bonbon/Sweetie Drop's (both names are now canon apparently) segment is pretty much the closest we can get to a fan-fiction joke. So cringe-inducing, yet so appropriate! Totally out of the blue. Lyra's still sitting in her trademark style.

- The arcade machine 'peripheral' is a salt-lick. Wat.

- Hugh Jelly's cutie mark is three strawberries. Guess he likes his jam.
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Post  Zarhon on Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:02 pm

Tonight's episode has been brought to you by 'the universe hates Spike'.



Commentary!
Spoiler:
- Castle! Ponies! A griffon! Dev cameos!

- The 'ghost monster' design team was on strike this season.

- "I'm here to make the Luna fanatics improve the episode's rating."

- "Except Tartarus. That place sucks."

- WELL THAT SURE ISN'T GETTING DEMOLISHED IN A COMEDIC FASHION.

- Pictured: Tara Strong at any given brony-con.

- "Well, time to humiliate my assistant again."

- Yup, typical brony con-goers.

- Moral get. Man, that was a short episode.

- BLENDSSSSSSS!

- Welcome to star tower! Hope you like stairs!

- The emergency is that it's almost been two and a half minutes without Spike suffering injury, physical or otherwise.

- [ADORKABLE SLEEPY HORSE NOISES]

- "Books, I will do unspeakable things to you."

- "As usual, failure in this task means summary execution."

- How do mimes work? They lack the digits to make it amusing!

- Luckily, the room came with it's own silenced sniper rifle.

- Apparently, one of Spike's secret skills is hyper-parkour.

- Maybe now you'll be smart enough to CLOSE THE WINDOW?!

- Local dragon ruins everything.

- Even chainsaw serial killers need to make a living.

- "Please let me rest this incredibly hazardous power tool on my neck as you talk."

- What is the point of the hoof-gloves? It's not like they're protecting anything.

- In an effort to make his existence as miserable as possible, Mother Nature herself made a brand new way of screwing with Spike.

- "You almost gave me permanently disfiguring burns and blindness, but it's no biggie!"

- Trope#234: Jackhammer threatens to wake someone up.

- "My jackhammer is ESSENTIAL to fixing the obvious pipe problem. Now shut up and let me drill into unrelated pavement."

- Spike's getting pretty snappy and snarky this episode.

- Yup, no foreshadowing there.

- "There, I made the title joke. Can you turn off the kill-switch now?"

- References to things I didn't watch! In this case, Fargo.

- I'm amazed it took five seasons for a Canada joke, given the show makers. You can barely notice the 'sorry' jokes as well!

- "My dork senses are tingling."

- Never change, you adorkable girl you.

- Jump out the window and end it all?

- It took a transcript to figure out he said 'share it'.

- And then nothing bad happened.

- Haha, no. You dun goofed, dragon.

- Yup, still typical bronies. Might as well rename this episode to 'Dashcon'.

- Liking the tiger-griffon there.

- Apparently, Fancy Pants is part of a mafia of some sort now.

- Aaand things are going downhill from here.

- ...and the inevitable millions of bits in damages. And the lawsuits. And the fatalities...

- I'm sorry 'Nerdy Delegate', but if one needs a transcript to figure out what you're saying, you're not going to be very popular outside of fanfictions.

- Spike, why would you... Now you've made this awkward and creepy.

- He's so sad he can't use his jackhammer to fix things.

- Voice of reason/sanity/episode morals to the rescue! Hopefully.

- Good job, Spike. You've gone from 'person thrust into position of unfortunate responsibilities' to 'incompetent asshole'.

- "There is no way this will backfire on me in a karmic flurry of disaster dominoes."

- Princess Common Sense, take two!

- The episode moral is coming up a lot earlier than usual.

- You HAD to tempt a universe bent on making you suffer, didn't you?!

- LOCAL DRAGON RUINS EVERYTHING, YET AGAIN.

- Just a reminder that Spike's a moron at times.

- Cadence learned that spell for 'judicial punishment' purposes.

- It's okay, you can salvage this! Just turn your head a few degrees in the other direction and...

- Replace 'bless' with a four-letter profanity.

- Investigator Fancy Pants already analyzed the crime scene, and is in full rant mode.

- And this his how a usual game of Town of Salem ends up - a good old-fashioned lynching.

- "Our thirst for noble blood can only be so polite!"

- And Spike is saved by the hyper-sleeper who conveniently wakes up.

- You'd think Spike would have learned to stop digging himself deeper by now.

- "All the horrific crimes are abolished by this one inconsequential task's completion!"

- No suicide for you today, Spike.

- Moral time! And everything is still ruined.

- Good thing priceless gem statue pieces are indestructible and easily repairable.

- "Except Tartarus. Fuck that place."

- YOU DUN GOOFED.

Short-notes summary of episode:
- Cadence has not-evil-good crystal-conjuring and/or petrification powers now.

- Another episode that beats down on Spike, arguably the worst kind so far! It starts off with him trying to make the most of a bad/doomed to fail situation (effectively, the plot worked to make him fail with no alternatives), escalating into him diverging into stupidity and bad choices to try and fix it (given his situation, what else could he do?), and then having a minor and completely inconsequential tangent of him abusing it (none of his 'abusive' acts cause the end disaster - in fact, it was pure bad luck / Spike-is-a-chewtoy-clause that caused any disaster at all!) and ending with him getting the short end of the stick with no real redeeming value. The moral seems to appear on several points early in the episode, centered on Spike, to then diversify into the pony crowd at the very end.

- The initial 'interruption' scene is mimicked by Spike's 'apology' speech, effectively delivering a moral for the ponies being so princess-centric.

- Chainsaws, mimes, and hooves: how do they work?

- More weird flora. This time, a 'Dragonsneeze' tree, designed to make Spike's life miserable.

- Cadence proves to be a MVP this episode, catching on to Spike's stupid stuff and calling him out on it, before any of the disasters even happened.

- The episode was pretty bland and not very entertaining. Spike isn't really pulling much humor besides the cemented fact that everything goes wrong around him and that he can't fix it effectively, and nothing besides Twilights few dorky moments and the Fargo-pony stands out as memorable or amusing. So far, it has my vote as the worst episode of this season for being so blatantly Spike-abusive (he actually did pretty well, for a time, but the weird writing put a quick stop to that. He was given no alternatives save a delayed/prolonged failure).
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