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Post  Zarhon on Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:21 pm

Might as well make a new thread! Season 6 has been announced for March 26th.

As always, keep things spoiler'd until actual episodes/videos are available.

Before now and just recently, a bunch of stuff cropped up, all spoilery.

A Synopsis for the first 'two-part episode'.

A short sneak-peek video featuring a massive spoiler/plot element:
Spoiler:


LLAAAAARRSSOOOOOOOONN!

And a promo-vid, featuring more stuff from the first two episodes of season 6.
Spoiler:


Winter disasters!
Omnipotent foal overlords!
Sunburst, as an adult!
Orange stallion with an octo-beard!
Sunset Shimmer's mane!


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Post  Zarhon on Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:26 pm

New season is here!


Spoiler:
Starlight is adorkable/sarcastic/PTSD sufferer, lots of the focus is on her.
No song. Sads.
Pinkie Pie is still a good/unfortunate foalsitter.
Sunburst is Rincewind pony.
Flurry Heart dooms everypony. Twice.
Glorious background pony moustaches!
Lots of exposition and continuity, and the plot elegantly fixes most of the potential 'loopholes' the problem would have.
Spike is getting more competent/stronger! Still vain and joke material, though.
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:10 pm

I was wondering if this was coming.

So about Princess... what, Flurry Heart? Interesting that they didn't name her Skyla.
  • She has mutant eyes.
  • Her wings are waaaaaaaay to big
  • oh and also apparently ALICORNS AREN'T BORN?


That's a pretty definitive Canon Shift, and actually explains one of the major gaps in the Canon Historical Timeline: Whoever came up with the idea that Celestia and Luna were just unicorns before they learned their magics and Ascended, good call, nailed it. Which means, (despite the flag), it can be assumed that they rose to power from among the ponies that settled Equestria, and that would explain why there was no mention of them in the founding story.

Now, that took me by surprise- of course we saw Twilight Ascend, but I had just assumed it could go either way, because Cadance exists. We've seen younger Cadance, and she was already an Alicorn Princess. That means, at some time in her Childhood, she discovered her all powerful Love Magic, and did something so radical with it that she achieved Winged status, and of course we wont explore what that might have been for another season.

This is pretty much all I took from the show, then rest of it was pretty formulaic, I enjoyed sleep deprived Shining Armor, but Starlight as a protagonist doesn't seem too terribly interesting. I hope she renegs and becomes a villain again later in the season, that would be an interesting Friendship Lesson.
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Post  Zarhon on Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:26 pm

For Cadence, there's a book that details how she got her princess-hood. There's also hints in another book that Luna/Celestia were taught by alicorns.
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:30 pm

Who reads books? Books r 4 nerds.
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Post  Zarhon on Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:33 pm

New episode, guv!



- Maud can teleport! And is majestic as buck. And terrifying in her determination.
- Pinkie is still Pinkie, and adorable when crazy. And almost committed a felony!
- Rarity is also Pinkie, and adorable when crazy.
- Both suck at acting/subtlety. Maud was either half-deaf, or pretending to not be fooled.
- Gold Tooth Pony is worst pony. Why does he need a party cannon, though?
- Boulder has a cousin.
- The plot is a variant of the 'Gift of the Magi' plot, as the title suggests.
- There's an implication that we might see this kind of episode again with Marble and Limestone Pie.
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:51 pm

8 minutes 52 seconds.
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Post  Zarhon on Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:22 pm

Cute ponies and tiny apple ponies having psychological schisms!



- Interesting episode. It's certainly a meta-look on everything the CMC did in the past.
- First off, we have the CMC being daft forgetful about the whole 'life changed forever' stuff, as well as unsettlingly fixated on the multiple plots.
- Applebloom is pretty daft silly this episode. Seems she's the go-to pony for 'prepubescent existential crisis' situations.
- Next come the issue of the new organization. Despite all evidence to the contrary, Equestria is not, in fact, teeming with cutie-mark traumatized ponies.
- Bulk Biceps speaks! Yeah!
- It seems a bit unsettling how foreign the concept of 'doing things unrelated to cutie marks' was to the CMC. Isolated cases, or do all ponies find a certain 'hesitation' in not doing what they want for their talent?
- The episode references old cutie mark theories of the fanon: Scootaloo's scootin', Sweetie Belle's singing, and Applebloom being a potion master, as well as Applebloom being incredibly generic as a pony, leading into co-dependency insanity trauma. Jeebus, Applebloom.
- Applebloom sings! Yay! Whilst the song is good, it's really sad that, well, it's still nothing that can beat Smile Smile Smile.
- Applebloom rather... quickly resolves her co-dependency issue. Seems a bit forced, but it also, uh, makes sense that such a silly, self-made problem would be an easy fix.
- The CMC fix the cutie mark problem and all is well. Except for the tap-dancing pony, who's destiny is forever sealed.
- Tree Hugger is a (nude) model, and Leonardo Da Vinci-pony is still a thing (plus the artist of a certain Dali painting we saw earlier).
- None of the Mane Six appeared! It's a show first!
- The moral of this episode appears to be 'do fun stuff', 'you can do stuff other than what you're good at', 'cripes Applebloom, stop being so goddamn insane' and 'scour Equestria for blank flanks, and make them disappear'.
- It looks like each episode will have altered music for the ending theme, now?
- If it's implied they're not good at their non-focus activities, how did Scootaloo survive bungie jumping?
- The exhibitionist colt is named Tender Taps.
- The music sheet appears to have the first page 'pasted' onto the second.
- Behold, art evolution! Things have changed over the years, haven't they?
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Post  Zarhon on Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:15 pm

A Spike-centric episode, Gauntlet of Fire! And a very good one, at that!



- Dragon lore!
- Spike doesn't suck!
- Lots and lots and lots of dragon continuity!
- Interesting how misleading both the mini-video-preview and the synopsis was: TS and RY do not get themselves in any real trouble (not to mention employ noclip cheats), but the threat instead is of a 'bigger picture' scale.
- TS and RY don't really contribute much to this episode, besides humor and someone to talk to for Spike.
- Detail some might have missed: Ember's dyed herself green, before she fell into the water.
- Crackle the dragon is among the contestants.
- Garble the dragon returns with his 'official' name! He's still an asshole.
- Ember  (no, not this one) is certainly a favorite new character. Though she was obviously written to ensure Spike's 'status quo' and provide a new friendship squad member, she's pretty much tsundember adorable through the whole episode.
- Sparity vs Spember, duel of the century
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Post  Paper Shadow on Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:38 pm

Season 6 has my full confidence now...

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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:53 am

Where

Are

the Big Dragons?

This entire episode is a massive plot-black hole.
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Post  AleneShazam on Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:13 am

Could be that the selecting of new leadership is generational, as given the long lives of dragons if all dragons participated inevitably the earliest, most experienced and most developed generation would repeatedly get the leadership position. Allowing only the current generation of younglings to participate encourages diversity and mixes up the leadership position.

This is my personal headcanon, at least, but I've also seen other explanations such as due to the fact that Torch specifically referring to dragons of Equestria, perhaps only the smaller dragons remain in Equestria while larger dragons continue their migration to Tamriel unknown lands beyond Equestria's borders. It's known that dragons migrate so this has some canon plausibility.
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Post  Masterweaver on Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:44 am

Or it could be that all big dragons are Dragonlords over their own small branch of kids. Lord as in Patriarch, not ruler.
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:27 pm

Well all I know is, they managed to devastate the backstory of my Dragon themed game... though given Garble's motivations, it could still fit. In fact....
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Post  Zarhon on Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:35 pm

New Great and Powerful episode, No Second Prances!



- Trixie is back, and what seems to be a different VA? She's still being her vain self, which backfires on her in her attempts for a legitimate friendship. So hard, in fact, that she becomes suicidal. What the heck, show?
- More Starlight Snarky McSnarkface Glimmer! She seems to be embodying the role of the pony who calls out horseapples when they see them and is still super awkward over the whole 'evil' stuff. Guess she's an audience surrogate and indication what would happen if a fan of the show / non-moron fell into Equestria.
- Twilight is also being her 'crazy shipping' self this episode, causing some conflict but not as much as she'd do with other ponies (because Starlight is not stupid and recognizes her actions immediately).
- Stage magic vs actual magic. Is it cheating if it's cleverly hidden?
- Background ponies! Yay! An official confirmation of DJ-PON3's name, more sassy ass, and Derpy being her best. Also Celestia once again getting the short end of the stick.
- Starlight, you can't fix Big Mac what ain't broken.
- Apparently, the satan-bunny can feel emotions other than hatred.
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Post  Paper Shadow on Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:23 pm

Teenage Angst: The Episode!

As much as I liked the humour of the episode, it has made me concerned about Starlight's character. I felt that she was just a copy of Twilight, right down to the stressing out, but replacing "Scientific and Studious" with "Naturally Gifted and Won't Shut Up About How She Did Evil Things In The Past". Seriously, it felt that she was bringing it up every other scene. I hope that there's a Starlight and Discord interaction that just nips that in the bud. "Oh please, you only endangered all of Equestria once, that wouldn't even get you on the leaderboards."

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Post  Zarhon on Mon May 09, 2016 8:51 pm

Late post. New episode, "Newbie Dash"!



- Dashie did the thing she wanted to do! Cats and Dogs living together! Mass hysteria!
- Scootaloo is very savvy this episode.
- Dashie is all the ponies. All of them. It's all very cringe-worthy.
- Return of the 'Rainbow Crash' insult. Guess the wound ran deeper than we thought.
- Dashie recognized as a hero, get out of her showboating (a bit), achieves dream. Guess the show's over!
- Continuity with the whole 'RD has a photographic memory now'.
- Pegasi skeletons have clouds.
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Post  Paper Shadow on Mon May 09, 2016 9:46 pm

Paper Shadow wrote:WHY MUST ALL EPISODES DEAL WITH THINGS PROPHESIED AS THE END TIMES?!

Rarity got her Canterlot Shop, the CMC got their Cutie Marks, and now this. How long has this been planned for again? The first merchandise for this foal was like years ago or something, right? Seriously, if this baby is born and Rainbow Dash joins the Wonderbolts before season's end, start panicking!
I was one season off but IT KEEPS HAPPENING YO!

I liked the storyline of this episode but the comedy really fell flat for me...

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Post  Zarhon on Sun May 15, 2016 12:34 am

Is your heart filled with Christmas cheer?

What, it's not? TOO BAD. HAVE A CHRISTMAS EPISODE. IN MAY. Hearth's Warming Tail!



- Starts off with a very Christmas-y song. The lyrics seem a bit hard to comprehend, and it's still not very memorable or re-singable.
- Starlight Glimmer gets yet another episode! It's like she's a main character now.
- Old timey tale with old-timey dressed ponies! Lots of background ponies galore. Note Octavia, DJ-PON3, Dr. Who, Sherlock/Watson/Moriarty, and the Little Matchstick Girl. And Bon Bon in a bonnet!
- The episode is similar in execution to the first Hearth's Warming episode.
- Snow Dash has best egghead-hairdo.
- Ironically, it seems Starlight is at her utmost best when she's, you guessed it, playing a villain! In this case, a bizarre mixture of the Grinch and Ebenezer Scrooge. I believe this is also her debut in song (if you don't count 'In Our Town', which was mostly other ponies) and she aces it!
- Man, they literally can't get enough of mocking the concept of Starlight Glimmer, can they? You might as well make every Starlight episode have a checkmark: 'Referenced her hilariously evil plots from the past'.
- It's nice to know how all it takes to plunge Equestria into despair or darkness is one slightly unhinged/well-meaning extremist with above-average magical power.
- If it's not obvious, the episode is a mixture of the Christmas Carol (strike that off the 'cliche episode' list).
- AJ gets a song! It's good!
- Minor symbolism - the decoration that Professor Severus Snape Flintheart breaks is Twilight's Cutie Mark.
- Gee, a character who had a minor slight in the past affect her whole future and bring her into great evil. Where have we heard that before?
- Yes, best pony is best ghost! And a song! It's also good!
- Wow, there's actual 'Chimney Sweep' cutie marks. Nothing like a talent that will get you killed young from CO2 poisoning or deathly falls.
- Twilight using her Pinkie Pie voice is a Tara Strong reference - she was originally meant to voice Pinkie Pie. Shows how good/similar they'd be.
- And Luna aces the 'scary future' role. And has a song. It's good! Shame they couldn't pull off the 'silent death' trope for that ghost.
- "There's still time!" trope, of the Christmas Carol tropes.
- Equestria confirmed for magic... electricity? That also lights up ponies.
- Rarishy
- This episode bring about another ironic observation: Starlight Glimmer (or someone she 'enacts') brings about the one apocalypse that was missing from her apocalypse-causing shenanigans! Also, Equestria is doomed if people don't have holidays. That's... encouraging.
- Pound and Pumpkin Cake seem to have grown out of being foals - they're singing on their own during the final bits.
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun May 15, 2016 4:31 pm

I'm ready for Christmas now.

This episode was interestingly enjoyable, considering it's yet another obligatory spin on A Christmas Carol- with just a hint of the Grinch thrown in. I think much of the enjoyment comes from seeing how the writers retell the story in pony terms, which they did flawlessly as ever. Besides the first song, which I didn't care for too much, the rest of the songs were pretty good, and Terrible Omen of Future Strife Luna Ghost absolutely was the best scene (And Pinkie Present Ghost's intro was equally nightmarish).

While everyone can tell that was obviously a Snape reference, I feel like they could have tried harder with the voice and dialogue to make it a real Alan Rickman tribute.

Sometimes it was hard separating Snowfall from Starlight- which is probably a good thing to some extent, but I got confused once or twice during the Ghost of Apples Past sequence.

Derpy is best electric ornament.
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sat May 21, 2016 4:24 pm

And I'm gonna get the first word in this week.

This was a great episode. Despite being Rarity-centric, everyone got some good screentime in. Even orange background pony with hat had a few lines.

J. Jonah Meme-Pony is official now. I want merch. The separate interviews were a fun concept.
Cousin Roman Pony is essentially big Eastern Europonyan Rule 63 Rarity... let that sink in.
I think Vinyl is stalking the mane 6 and trying to disrupt their operations with mobile, Equestria wide clubspace. She only seems to operate in close proximity to them.
Coco came back, sneezed, and left.
The Mane 6 also seem to have no idea how things work in a store, save Twilight who just wants to organize everything.

Also, be ready for the "Sweep, Sweep" remixes coming soon.

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Post  Zarhon on Sun May 22, 2016 11:27 am

What, no links? Saddle Row & Rec!



- The whole episode makes an interesting change in the format with the whole 'interview' thing (plus being out of chronological order).
- The format change really works well, since they get so many 'comedic timing' and 'jump-cut' gags done right. This is arguably the funniest episode this season so far.
- Sooooo many parodies/mocking/lampshading everything of the Mane Six and/or the fandom.
- So many silly faces. Also, puns.
- Interesting that the seemingly 'sound and logical' approach (that is, doing what Rarity would) backfires so badly, and the Mane Six... somehow succeed by turning the problems into benefits.
- Why did the dancing-pony in the middle have a pacifier? Is it a reference to a celebrity?
- Sweeping is hard when you can only use your mouth.
- Twilight is in full adorkable / panic-crazy mode this episode.
- Brohoofs from AJ/RD.
- For those that missed it: pay attention to the background during Pinkie Pie's interview parts. Changeling invasion confirmed.
- Plaid Stripes sure is... something.
- Lots of attention to detail! For instance, carrot-hotdogs. And a weird no-tomato pizza.
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun May 22, 2016 4:17 pm

Zarhon wrote:
- Why did the dancing-pony in the middle have a pacifier? Is it a reference to a celebrity?

- For those that missed it: pay attention to the background during Pinkie Pie's interview parts. Changeling invasion confirmed.

The pacifier is actually a drug reference. The writers are getting bold- or they somehow didn't know any better.
Wikipedia wrote:As well as clothing there developed a range of accessories carried by many ravers including: Vicks VapoRub, which ravers find pleasant under the influence of MDMA, pacifiers to satiate the need to grind one's teeth (bruxism) caused by taking MDMA, and glow sticks which adjunct the mild psychedelia of MDMA's effect

And what did you see in the background? I didn't notice anything. Oh Nevermind.
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Post  Zarhon on Sat May 28, 2016 10:25 pm

New episode! Applejack's 'Day' Off



- An interesting way to present a lesson, of which there are three: 'Streamline/optimize your work', 'let your friends or complete strangers other people fix your mistakes/problems for no charge or fee', and 'don't fix what ain't broken'.
- AJ is interesting this episode: On one hand, she shows intricate engineering expertise (read: figuring fixing things with duct tape), on the other, lack of common sense in farming (she's outright amazed by half the things they show her).
- Rarity's job this episode is to act as the audience and nag AJ to make the episode interesting.
- Twilight would not survive an apocalypse if she had a book guide for it.
- Rainbow Dash confirmed for wuss.
- Some of the solutions, whilst sound for time expenditure, doesn't exactly hold up when it comes to money. Replacing the whole fence for example costs way more than bits and pieces of it (assuming you cut it cleverly). Also, the solutions don't involve magic.
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Post  A1C Bronymous on Sun May 29, 2016 12:33 am

Zarhon wrote:Also, the solutions don't involve magic.

Actually it looked like they were pretty solidly advertising magic as the best way to turn all those valves in the absurd irrigation system we've never seen before.

This episode raises several questions and reaffirms several points made earlier in the series. For example, Applejack would rather devote her time to work and help everyone else before resting- and its a mystery how Sweet Apple Acres can remain in operation when the professional farm ponies that run the place can't comprehend "pour pig slop in trough", similar to how they don't know not to let a child bet their entire farm in a cider making competition. APPLEJACK IS NOT A CLEVER PONY. SHE IS A SILLY PONY. WHO IS? YOU IS, APPLEJACK.

Also since when do AJ and Rarity go on spa dates? She and Fluttershy do that all the time, but the yellow one was strangely absent this episode.

Whatever happened to "I don't like ponies touching my hooves", Rainbow Dash?

I'm not sure why they continue to paint Twilight as lacking any sense, common or otherwise this season. She's the smart one, she never stopped being the smart one. Season 1-3 Twilight would have had the pigs fed in 60 seconds, and then reorganized the rest of Applejack's chore schedule to less than half a day's work, and considering this episodes lesson was diametrically opposed to Winter Wrap Up, she'd obviously have gotten away with it instead of learning a stupid lesson about tradition. Though, they did do a good job of showing her to be the more sensical one in the end for once.

Why doesn't the spa have maintenance ponies? Or contract the work as soon as something was going wrong? Does no one in this town know how to run a business anymore? Rarity has what, three shops now, and everyone else is running their businesses into the ground. Next week, the cakes don't understand why their cupcakes aren't selling ever since they replaced sugar with cocaine.`

Very good episode, loved it. Dan vs Smiles

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