Re: Preferences on a new Crescendo?

**Kindulas** Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:14 pm

ZamuelNow wrote:I actually do wonder if it would be feasible to have something similar to the old version with lower dice amounts since the actual mechanic is interesting. Perhaps

[-cost] Repeated Crack Fist [Standard Attack]
Deal 1d4 damage to target creature.
Deal 1d4 damage to target creature.
Deal 1d4 damage to target creature.
Deal 1d4 damage to target creature.
Deal 1d8 damage to target creature.

Without escalating non-random damage, vuln isn't as much of an outright problem yet it can still have use. Perhaps the d4 could be upped to d6.

The only problem with something like this is the calculation on how much vuln and Duelist has to be accounted for to make it fair. Now, maybe if it was "lose hp"...

ZamuelNow Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:40 pm

What if the d4s (or d6s if you go with Xel's suggestion) were changed to lose life while the final hit still did damage? Actually, if all but the final hit were lose life, could it possibly regain some form of the escalation mechanic the original had?

**Kindulas** Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:57 pm

ZamuelNow wrote:What if the d4s (or d6s if you go with Xel's suggestion) were changed to lose life while the final hit still did damage? Actually, if all but the final hit were lose life, could it possibly regain some form of the escalation mechanic the original had?

It very well could, in fact. Perhaps a Necro talent called "Cacophony of Death" or "Vile Requiem" - sound based names as a nod to the original

**Kindulas** Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:07 pm

Kindulas wrote:
ZamuelNow wrote:What if the d4s (or d6s if you go with Xel's suggestion) were changed to lose life while the final hit still did damage? Actually, if all but the final hit were lose life, could it possibly regain some form of the escalation mechanic the original had?
It very well could, in fact. Perhaps a Necro talent called "Cacophony of Death" or "Vile Requiem" - sound based names as a nod to the original

[-8] Cacophany of Death - Standard Attack
Target creature loses 1d4 hp
Target creature loses 1d6 hp
Target creature loses 1d8 hp
Target creature loses 1d10 hp
Target creature loses 1d12 hp

we *could* have the last one deal damage, but that feels so random...

Xel Unknown Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:09 pm

Kindulas wrote:
Kindulas wrote:
ZamuelNow wrote:What if the d4s (or d6s if you go with Xel's suggestion) were changed to lose life while the final hit still did damage? Actually, if all but the final hit were lose life, could it possibly regain some form of the escalation mechanic the original had?
It very well could, in fact. Perhaps a Necro talent called "Cacophony of Death" or "Vile Requiem" - sound based names as a nod to the original
[-8] Cacophany of Death - Standard Attack
Target creature loses 1d4 hp
Target creature loses 1d6 hp
Target creature loses 1d8 hp
Target creature loses 1d10 hp
Target creature loses 1d12 hp

we *could* have the last one deal damage, but that feels so random...

I see the nickname of "Buck you Minions!" being given to this combat talent.

**Kindulas** Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:13 pm

Xel Unknown wrote:
Kindulas wrote:
Kindulas wrote:
ZamuelNow wrote:What if the d4s (or d6s if you go with Xel's suggestion) were changed to lose life while the final hit still did damage? Actually, if all but the final hit were lose life, could it possibly regain some form of the escalation mechanic the original had?
It very well could, in fact. Perhaps a Necro talent called "Cacophony of Death" or "Vile Requiem" - sound based names as a nod to the original
[-8] Cacophany of Death - Standard Attack
Target creature loses 1d4 hp
Target creature loses 1d6 hp
Target creature loses 1d8 hp
Target creature loses 1d10 hp
Target creature loses 1d12 hp

we *could* have the last one deal damage, but that feels so random...
I see the nickname of "Buck you Minions!" being given to this combat talent.

lol, true. But hardly unfair, I'd say

ZamuelNow Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:31 pm

Kindulas wrote:
Kindulas wrote:
ZamuelNow wrote:What if the d4s (or d6s if you go with Xel's suggestion) were changed to lose life while the final hit still did damage? Actually, if all but the final hit were lose life, could it possibly regain some form of the escalation mechanic the original had?
It very well could, in fact. Perhaps a Necro talent called "Cacophony of Death" or "Vile Requiem" - sound based names as a nod to the original
[-8] Cacophany of Death - Standard Attack
Target creature loses 1d4 hp
Target creature loses 1d6 hp
Target creature loses 1d8 hp
Target creature loses 1d10 hp
Target creature loses 1d12 hp

we *could* have the last one deal damage, but that feels so random...

For the escalating version it would feel rather weird. The static d4 version was actually a reference to Fist of the North Star in the way it was envisioned; Multiple pressure point strikes ending with an actual big hit at the end.

Ramsus Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:51 pm

I rather like Cacophony of Death. Mechanically. The name could really be more musical sounding. Like some kind of Dirge or Funeral March or such.

**Philadelphus** Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:37 am

Danse Macabre? (Dance of Death) That's the first thing that came to mind for me.

Ramsus Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:11 am

Oooh, that one!

Xel Unknown Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:44 pm

Danse Macabre or Dance of Death sounds the best term to use.

**Kindulas** Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:48 pm

I rather like using the word "Dirge" too though, it's musical but also soooo dark sounding

Zarhon Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:39 pm

Kindulas wrote:I rather like using the word "Dirge" too though, it's musical but also soooo dark sounding

Not for anyone that's played WoW! The pronunciation of the word is a bit silly as well (durr-ge).

As for other names, the Kingdom Hearts enemies got a few musical names that would fit the bill..

Black Ballade
Scarlet Tango
Raging Requiem

**Philadelphus** Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:13 am

Dirge of Death? Deadly Dirge?

A1C Bronymous Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:13 pm

This might be the right place to ask this question. Is electrocution one single attack, or multiple attacks?

Xel Unknown Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:18 pm

Bronymous wrote:This might be the right place to ask this question. Is electrocution one single attack, or multiple attacks?

Single Target Attack, clearly...

A1C Bronymous Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:36 pm

So each die roll does not count as a separate attack, like Crescendo was.

sunbeam Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:42 pm

Correct. If it was a multi-attack, it would use the term "deal X damage" more than once.

**Kindulas** Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:16 am

How about Death Knell? it has Death, a sound, and it's a saying.
Otherwise I like "Dance of Death" or "Dark Requiem"

I think "Dark Requiem" sounds coolest, Death Knell is nice because of how quick and easy it is to say, and Dance of Death is cool too but a little bit more of a mouthful.

Zarhon Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:16 am

Restless Requiem?
Red Requiem?
Raining Requiem? Very Happy

**Kindulas** Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:22 am

Wow, Red Requiem has a really cool ring to it.

Still, Death Knell sounds the most "Lethal" as Dan put it - while many sound like an extravagant necromatic ritual, DK really evokes the feeling of a necromancer snuffing the life out of people best.

Ramsus Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:23 am

Dance Macabre is still my favorite. Second place (far far second) would be ~~Dark~~ Red Requiem.
Edit: Yeah, Red is better than Dark here.

**Kindulas** Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:00 am

Perhaps Red Requiem should be a Warlock talent, because blood.
My issue with Dance Macabre is that, while stylish, it doesn't sound too great verbally

Ramsus Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:27 am

*stares at Kindulas with a complete lack of comprehension*

Xel Unknown Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:32 pm

That is a 120% opinion based statement... You do know that right? Cause to me Dance Macabre is quite cool to say and equal to Red Requiem in coolness factor... If anything I'd argue that Death Knell sounds lame and not that impressive when said.

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