Re: Oh, The Places You'll Go - S5 Pony Discussion

Cardbo Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:15 am

Zarhon wrote:I see your robots and raise you one abomination.
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Rainbow Dash is the Loch Ness Monster.

Zarhon Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:22 pm

Da usual commentaries

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Quick & Dirty notes

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Zarhon Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:17 pm

New episode! Now available with bombshell info and lots of fanon stuff!

Commentaries! Now with bonus 'dream-catching' counter!:

So, serious notables:

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**Paper Shadow** Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:16 pm

Just a heads up Zarhon, the uploader you are linking to for the episode is removing them one week after they air, to avoid copyright problems. You might want to remove those dead links when that happens...

Anyway, yeah, MLP confirmed for Pro-Pancake and Anti-Twitter...

Cardbo Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:57 pm

Anyone notice Pinkie Pie appears in her chicken outfit at 15:25. Once an episode appearance must be in her in her season 4 contract. Smile

**Paper Shadow** Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:50 pm

Cardbo wrote:Anyone notice Pinkie Pie appears in her chicken outfit at 15:25. Once an episode appearance must be in her in her season 4 contract.

You mean Season 5, don't ya?

(P.S. For those curious, because I was, Pinkie Pie didn't appear in three Season 4 episodes. Flight to the Finish, Somepony to Watch Over Me, and Leap of Faith...)

Cardbo Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:05 pm

Paper Shadow wrote:
Cardbo wrote:Anyone notice Pinkie Pie appears in her chicken outfit at 15:25. Once an episode appearance must be in her in her season 4 contract.
You mean Season 5, don't ya?

(P.S. For those curious, because I was, Pinkie Pie didn't appear in three Season 4 episodes. Flight to the Finish, Somepony to Watch Over Me, and Leap of Faith...)

Season 4, Season 5. Whats the diff? Smile

Zarhon Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:52 pm

Paper Shadow wrote:Just a heads up Zarhon, the uploader you are linking to for the episode is removing them one week after they air, to avoid copyright problems. You might want to remove those dead links when that happens...

Anyway, yeah, MLP confirmed for Pro-Pancake and Anti-Twitter...

Right, I'll replace em then.

Anyone notice Pinkie Pie appears in her chicken outfit at 15:25.

Nobody reads my commentaries. Sad

Cardbo Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:08 am

Zarhon wrote:
Anyone notice Pinkie Pie appears in her chicken outfit at 15:25.
Nobody reads my commentaries.

Dammit! I thought I did.

EDIT:

Zarhon wrote:
- Well, that didn't work.

Refernce to Yamcha from Dragonball Z? Nice.

A1C Bronymous Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:16 pm

Meanwhile, in the new episode, everyone's favorite rainbow colored eco-terrorist and "Vaccines cause Autism" crier tries to murder her pet, decimates the ecosystem and economy of not only ponyville but her hometown of Cloudsdale, tells Fluttershy that she sucks at animals, and makes Twilight Sparkle make the cringing-est Meme reference in the series to date. All because she can't handle her pet being away for a few months because she apparently has absolutely no other companionship in the world.

When Rainbow Dash goes for Worst Pony, she goes for the fucking gold.

Unrelated, R63 aged up Scootaloo sighted, someone's fanfic is getting in my episode.

Zarhon Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:05 pm

You know what time it is, y'all!

The episode where Larson ruins everything.:

So! Wow. This episode, for all it's 'mild' appearance, is pretty damn deep as far as it's psychology goes.

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In non-psychology stuff:
- The moral is very in-tune with what kids need to learn: Coping with the loss of a pet. Real subject, lessened in severity, but still treated seriously.

- Slippers! Adorable tank/Dashie slippers.

- An absolutely fantastic portrayal of the 'whos on first' joke. Which is surprising it took so long, given how perfect the setting is for that kind of thing!

- More insight on weather-crafting stuff!

- Dashie gets away with a complete act of terrorism with zero casualties! Hooray! The only real nonsensical part of this episode.

- Apparently, cloud houses are as secure as a wet blanket. Robbing a pegasus must be ludicrously easy. Or Pinkie cannot be contained by mere clouds. We also learn that the houses are probably stable enough to support non-pegasi, or that the Mane Six have a good method of reaching her home (balloon? Wingpower?).

- A look into Spike's new room!

- Angel needs to hibernate as well, as well as the tea-sipping bear. So, Fluttershy is pretty lonely during that time, other animals notwithstanding.

- Moar Daring Do book cover! This one without a title and pretty blurry, though.

Cardbo Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:30 pm

Rainbow Dash confirmed for Crazy ~~Cat~~ Turtle Lady later in life.

TheCavalry Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:15 am

I was not expecting anything from Tanks for the Memories, but damn was I wrong. Glad to see I wasn't the only one who got the impression that the episode was "about" Tank dying.

A1C Bronymous Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:03 pm

I feel like this was a water-tester by the showrunners to see how they could broach into real-world subjects like death, and I can't say I'm sure they pulled it off or not. Throughout the episode they put every effort into insisting that Tank was just going into hibernation, no mention made of death of any kind. Then though, if you take it at face value, you have an entirely out of character reaction from Rainbow Dash, at least in my opinion. Like your friend is going on a trip for summer or something, Tank's just going to not be around for a little bit, and Rainbow completely loses it? It doesn't make sense, unless we accept that she and the rest of the mane 6 are still basically children. That, or she has the object permanence of a dog. Utilizing the 5 stages of Grief also drives home the hint at death, but again, since it isn't a permanent situation, they don't fit quite right.

Coming from this, especially in the Denial Stage, wherein Dash refuses to say "Hibernation"- because apparently its so tragic- then the show itself backtracks on itself. While everyone else is being sympathetic to the death of a pet that isn't actually happening, Twilight outright has no idea what the fuss is about. She is written in a way that undermines the entire theme of helping a friend cope with loss, which seems counterproductive. If the episode was about loss and/or death, you would think she would follow along a little better in contrivance, like the others, rather than diametrically oppose their sympathy with the logic of a viewer.

It seems to me like they wanted to introduce a heavy subject, but were unwilling to use heavy subject matter, and the result was confusing at best. All that aside, though, it was still a very entertaining episode, even if the "Winter is Coming" line gave me a concussion from facedesking so hard.

Zarhon Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:49 pm

A1C Bronymous wrote:It seems to me like they wanted to introduce a heavy subject, but were unwilling to use heavy subject matter, and the result was confusing at best. All that aside, though, it was still a very entertaining episode, even if the "Winter is Coming" line gave me a concussion from facedesking so hard.

I don't think it's a matter of "unwilling" so much as "not allowed to by Hasbro/higher-ups". It's still a kids show in the long run, and they've intentionally avoided even mentioning death (the closest was Dash yelling at Lightning Dust how she almost 'destroyed' her friends) so far. It's implied, of course, that it's there (AJ's parents, a funeral, the implied consequences of the various villains...), but they can't quite break the ice without 'moral guardians' freaking out or something, or the apparent risk of kiddies 'learning' about death. Given such restrictions, it's close enough to be recognizable or relate-able for the moral.

The "Winter is Coming" is entirely Larson's fault.

Zarhon Sat May 02, 2015 8:42 pm

New episode! Now with more AJ being overshadowed by a background character!

Have some more carefully-spoilered messages.

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Also an embed.

So, what did we learn this episode?

- Cutie Marks show up when you 'realize' what your destiny/future will be, but not necessarily when you realize how that will come to pass.

- Cutie Marks can make private life miserable if you don't obey them. Those janitor ponies got it rough.

- A new type of pony 'build'! Big Mac is no longer the token 'big guy', as this one is modeled after a realistic horse!

- Sweetie Belle is improving her magic!

- AJ will always get the spotlight stolen from her. ALWAYS.

Cardbo Sun May 03, 2015 12:15 pm

Going to go out on a limb here and venture that CMC do get their cutie-marks this season. They have been building up to it. This is already the second episode this season featuring them, and frankly I can't really see them dragging it out for any longer.

**Paper Shadow** Sun May 03, 2015 4:11 pm

Cardbo wrote:Going to go out on a limb here and venture that CMC do get their cutie-marks this season. They have been building up to it. This is already the second episode this season featuring them, and frankly I can't really see them dragging it out for any longer.

Between the 1st/2nd, 4th, and 6th episode, it would seem that Cutie Marks are a core feature of this season. However, it might be just an overload of CMC episodes at the front. I mean, just look at the last season. Remember the buildup to the Equestrian Games which just turned out to be Spike At Your Service 2? Or the whole "episodes with a ponies name in it = they get their key in that episode" theory?

I would not put it pass the writers to dangle a string in front of the audience and pull a bait and switch...

Zarhon Wed May 06, 2015 2:58 pm

The show's creators already revealed that the season will feature 'Cutie Mark Magic' as a central or overarching theme for Season 5.

As for whether the CMC will actually get their cutie marks? Depends. These few early episodes were already hype-inducing that the CMC might get their cutie marks, and the previews were also pretty trolly/debunked on the subject.

Not to mention that it would mean the writers have to make a new 'gimmick' for the CMC, get them to grow out of 'dangerously-irresponsible-actions-for-cutie-marks' as a easy comic relief method. Unless their club expands for more members and they become 'mentors' of sorts, of course. They even sort of 'enforced' this with the last dream episode, allowing for more leeway for the writers to keep them blank-flanks.

But at the same time, we know that the show isn't afraid of making changes to the status quo (Twilight's wings, her new castle, losing the Elements of Harmony...), so it's not implausible that they're saving it for a finale.

But it's likely either going to be:
a) Spread over three episodes (one for each, presumably when they can't interfere/interact with each other, akin to how Spike's pet-sitting was handled). This is unlikely though, since that can wreak havoc on the season for those cases when episodes are aired in a random/incorrect order for that season, leading to discontinuity or unintended spoilers for future airings.
b) Condensed into a single one (finale or penultimate episode, all three get them at once).

It's also a possibility that the same reveal will include:
- Scootaloo getting over her flying-handicap for good (as seen in dream).
- A reveal of what Applebloom's talent is actually supposed to be (it's vague and possibilities are pretty wide, so far).
- Sweetie Belle's doing something big/cool/amazing with her in-training horn magic. It's quite possible that Sweetie Belle will get 'dragged' to her Cutie Mark, just like her sister was!

Zarhon Sat May 16, 2015 7:45 pm

After a two-week break, it's finally time for a new episode! This week, we have Discord in the spotlight!

Snappy Episode Commentary!

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So, quick notes!

- Celestia's attitude and scheme is both terrifying and refreshing. Can't help but feel like it's foreshadowing a descent into madness. She also proves rather anti-potent, along with the Mane Six.

- Against all odds, the CMC didn't ruin a public, formal event. They also come along with their sisters and family surrogates.

- The segment of the party seemed a bit... drawn out. Lots of focus on Discord's juvenile rage, whilst good for the plot, isn't all that entertaining after you've seen it several times already, and the 'stand up comedy' segment was too painful for artistic/entertainment purposes. Discord was surprisingly non-chaotic for its procession as well - up to a point, at least.

- Smooze picks up on Discord's lack of funny with his distracting innocent antics.

- Discord is a major douche again, but apparently that's okay because he is so detached from reality he doesn't understand basic principles. Welp.

- Tree Hugger! She's a hippie! Yup. Can't tell if I like her for her lines, or just how surprisingly well her blatant, over-the-top stereotyping puts her in the same background-pony boat as Maud.

- The Pink One proves yet again to be a horrifying prospect for a Chaos Spawn, and yearns for the day she will claim your soul.

A1C Bronymous Sat May 16, 2015 8:10 pm

I'm roughly... 8 minutes into the episode, and my brain is shutting down from all the references and cameos. Firstly, the Gala is happening again, and with Twilight sharing the responsibilities this year it seems Celestia managed to find a dress to wear this time. Discord is Discord, but oh my god he brought the smooze to the gala. What.

This episode is nuts.

Cardbo Sun May 17, 2015 1:52 am

>_>

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And no mentioned the Metal Gear Solid reference?

**Paper Shadow** Sun May 17, 2015 6:21 am

Cardbo wrote:>_>

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And no mentioned the Metal Gear Solid reference?

Zarhon wrote:- Dang, guess he'll have to reset the episode now.

A1C Bronymous Sun May 17, 2015 5:03 pm

Oh yeah, that too. Sorry, mind was incredibly blown. Hard to find all the pieces.

**Paper Shadow** Mon May 18, 2015 3:04 pm

So, seeing how the season is now one quarter over, any opinions on how the season as a whole has been turning out?

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