Playing In The Sandbox (Recruitment, Info, And OOC)
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Re: Playing In The Sandbox (Recruitment, Info, And OOC)
And I'm sorry but I'm calling BS on your calling BS. You're ignoring that she used her sword plenty. In fact, she used it in every attack besides the one where she punched you. It doesn't matter how much magic she used, she was using a weapon as well. Nobody in the crowd things there is anything wrong with this at all. If they did you would have been disqualified and booed off for the lightning breath. You're being a hypocrite.
Stop arguing. It was considered a fair and honorable fight and attacking her or challenging her at this point would be dishonorable and unwise. You can still do so of course but, nobody is going to have your back about it.
Edit: The samurai have their own competitions, there's nothing for them to gain here. If one of these fighters or a samurai wants to challenge each other to a fight just for a test of skill they will anyway but, the samurai aren't coming here to do so.
Stop arguing. It was considered a fair and honorable fight and attacking her or challenging her at this point would be dishonorable and unwise. You can still do so of course but, nobody is going to have your back about it.
Edit: The samurai have their own competitions, there's nothing for them to gain here. If one of these fighters or a samurai wants to challenge each other to a fight just for a test of skill they will anyway but, the samurai aren't coming here to do so.
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A samurai lives to serve his lord. If his lord explicately told one to enter to uphold the honour of his name or something, then yes, a samurai would enter.If one or two samarium joined... maybe. But this is what samurai life for. So it would be samurai dominated.
Otherwise, they have better things to do than to fight in a tournament.
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Ramsus wrote:And I'm sorry but I'm calling BS on your calling BS. You're ignoring that she used her sword plenty. In fact, she used it in every attack besides the one where she punched you. It doesn't matter how much magic she used, she was using a weapon as well. Nobody in the crowd things there is anything wrong with this at all. If they did you would have been disqualified and booed off for the lightning breath. You're being a hypocrite.
Stop arguing. It was considered a fair and honorable fight and attacking her or challenging her at this point would be dishonorable and unwise. You can still do so of course but, nobody is going to have your back about it.
Replace the sword with a magic staff and the only difference would be that Arcantos wouldn't of gotten cut when she throws the damn thing. It cannot be called using a weapon plenty when you can replace it with another one for little to no difference.
And no, there is no hypocrisy here. Arcantos has been nearly purely melee based. Only two of his moves have not involved his melee at all. One were he was out of melee range and slowed down so moving into range would be stupid, or when everything he was doing had been ineffectual. He's shown great martial skill while the changeling has shown almost none.
People aren't going to be happy with the changeling and nor is challenging her to a non-magic duel during a martial arts tournament going to have people against him. Nor would having Arcantos be disqualified if people were against her for using the Lightning Breath. As he had moved into melee range to use it and would of continued to attack using his melee weapons after using it.
Which brings up another point, how could she have thrown the weapon when he was so close and how did the blast not effect her as well?
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Replace the word your swords with potatoes. What a marvelous non-point I made!
Yes, you used two or three magic attacks that didn't use a weapon. She used 0. That makes YOU the cheater in comparison. Even if you only talk about attacks without a weapon in melee range...she only made one of those and it was still limited to the area around her sword.
I'm sorry, no. I am the GM, not you. I have already explained to you why the crowd does not give a single fucking shit about your opinion. Accept it and move on, just stop embarrassing yourself.
There was clearly space between them and I had ruled the attack as her not being able to move into melee of you (which would be correct either way). Therefore there must be space for her to throw the weapon. The blast didn't effect her because it was her magic in the same way your lightning breath did not burn your lungs and cause you to asphyxiate.
Yes, you used two or three magic attacks that didn't use a weapon. She used 0. That makes YOU the cheater in comparison. Even if you only talk about attacks without a weapon in melee range...she only made one of those and it was still limited to the area around her sword.
I'm sorry, no. I am the GM, not you. I have already explained to you why the crowd does not give a single fucking shit about your opinion. Accept it and move on, just stop embarrassing yourself.
There was clearly space between them and I had ruled the attack as her not being able to move into melee of you (which would be correct either way). Therefore there must be space for her to throw the weapon. The blast didn't effect her because it was her magic in the same way your lightning breath did not burn your lungs and cause you to asphyxiate.
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... You completely and utterly missed the point,
And no, I'm not going to stop when your not making sens or not paying attention
Almost everything that the changeling did was magic based. Yes she did it through her sword. Does that change a thing? Heck no! She could of done it through a staff or through a wand or even not use an item at all and most of the damage she's done is still there. You CANNOT. CANNOT claim that people would be on her side and that she has always used her sword when THE SWORD HAS DONE ALMOST NOTHING AT ALL AND SHE HAS MAGIC SHE'S USED TO STOP HERSELF FROM TAKING DAMAGE IS NOT RELATED TO HER WIELDING A SWORD.
Unless she is a swordmage... which brings up the fact that she's using a two handed weapon with both hands. Not a one handed weapon. The warden defensive ability requires her to have a hand free.
And no, I'm not going to stop when your not making sens or not paying attention
Almost everything that the changeling did was magic based. Yes she did it through her sword. Does that change a thing? Heck no! She could of done it through a staff or through a wand or even not use an item at all and most of the damage she's done is still there. You CANNOT. CANNOT claim that people would be on her side and that she has always used her sword when THE SWORD HAS DONE ALMOST NOTHING AT ALL AND SHE HAS MAGIC SHE'S USED TO STOP HERSELF FROM TAKING DAMAGE IS NOT RELATED TO HER WIELDING A SWORD.
Unless she is a swordmage... which brings up the fact that she's using a two handed weapon with both hands. Not a one handed weapon. The warden defensive ability requires her to have a hand free.
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She is a swordmage. I was kidding when I mentioned people making an arcana check because I thought that was freaking obvious. And no, that ability gives +3 with a hand open and only +1 otherwise. So you're wrong about that too.
Even if she was not a swordmage, two things. 1) You're ignoring every mention of swordplay I made, despite the fact that all the attacks involved using her sword. 2) YOU don't get to fucking tell me how my NPCs think. You are not the GM. You are the player. You do not get to control NPC reactions or thoughts. You can make a case once for why you disagree but, this is just making an ass out of yourself.
Now stop making fucking assumptions and trying to control the setting to suit your momentary desires in a completely hypocritical way and play. Stop holding everyone up for your fucking bitchfests. Nobody is enjoying this bullshit. Play or don't, don't fucking keep wasting our time.
Even if she was not a swordmage, two things. 1) You're ignoring every mention of swordplay I made, despite the fact that all the attacks involved using her sword. 2) YOU don't get to fucking tell me how my NPCs think. You are not the GM. You are the player. You do not get to control NPC reactions or thoughts. You can make a case once for why you disagree but, this is just making an ass out of yourself.
Now stop making fucking assumptions and trying to control the setting to suit your momentary desires in a completely hypocritical way and play. Stop holding everyone up for your fucking bitchfests. Nobody is enjoying this bullshit. Play or don't, don't fucking keep wasting our time.
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1. Its been years since I've read what it does. So excuse me for making that mistake. Plus if it is just a +1, why is it so damn effective?
2. No, I haven't ignored the swordplay. Its just that it is so useless and unimportant that it can hardly be called swordplay at all. 'All the attacks using her sword' aren't even blows that have been enhanced with magic, they are magic attacks channeled through a sword. Magic attacks channeled through a sword, is not swordplay.
3. If I know the culture of a place and know the current events. I can have a solid idea as to how the NPC will react. Which is completely different from what your saying which clashes with the culture.
4. I am not being hypocritical in anyway.
2. No, I haven't ignored the swordplay. Its just that it is so useless and unimportant that it can hardly be called swordplay at all. 'All the attacks using her sword' aren't even blows that have been enhanced with magic, they are magic attacks channeled through a sword. Magic attacks channeled through a sword, is not swordplay.
3. If I know the culture of a place and know the current events. I can have a solid idea as to how the NPC will react. Which is completely different from what your saying which clashes with the culture.
4. I am not being hypocritical in anyway.
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1) Because that's just the flavor I'm giving for "your attack missed". Do you want me to just say "you missed" every fucking time? Too bad, you don't get a choice as that would be way too damn boring for me.
2) I already explained before that the lack of description of swordplay is a limitation on MY knowledge of it, not the character's. Please stop fucking ignoring shit I say to make dumb fucking arguments every third post.
3) No. You are not the GM. You do not control the NPC reactions. You may ask or suggest they act different but, if I say otherwise, then that is how shit is. Deal with it.
4) I disagree.
5) If you make another post here before you make an RP post (based on the way I said the things are, not the way you are have failed to convince me they should be) you're out. You are intentionally wasting our time holding up the game with this bullshit. Play or don't. I did not set this game up just for you to argue and bitch about shit.
2) I already explained before that the lack of description of swordplay is a limitation on MY knowledge of it, not the character's. Please stop fucking ignoring shit I say to make dumb fucking arguments every third post.
3) No. You are not the GM. You do not control the NPC reactions. You may ask or suggest they act different but, if I say otherwise, then that is how shit is. Deal with it.
4) I disagree.
5) If you make another post here before you make an RP post (based on the way I said the things are, not the way you are have failed to convince me they should be) you're out. You are intentionally wasting our time holding up the game with this bullshit. Play or don't. I did not set this game up just for you to argue and bitch about shit.
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1. Then get more creative. Your flavour is ruining the RP.
2. You hadn't said that before and even then it does not change the fact that the character has used miminal sword play and a lot of magic.
3. Well the DM is doing things which are just wrong, the player points them out. The DM isn't always right.
4. Then what is hypocritical?
5. And of course you say edit the post instead of saying that originally. Meaning I didn't see that before making the post.
6. no, I don't intentionally wasting time and holding up the game. Its your BS which is creating these problems, not mine. All I'm doing is pointing them out.
2. You hadn't said that before and even then it does not change the fact that the character has used miminal sword play and a lot of magic.
3. Well the DM is doing things which are just wrong, the player points them out. The DM isn't always right.
4. Then what is hypocritical?
Ramsus wrote:5) If you make another post here before you make an RP post (based on the way I said the things are, not the way you are have failed to convince me they should be) you're out. You are intentionally wasting our time holding up the game with this bullshit. Play or don't. I did not set this game up just for you to argue and bitch about shit.
5. And of course you say edit the post instead of saying that originally. Meaning I didn't see that before making the post.
6. no, I don't intentionally wasting time and holding up the game. Its your BS which is creating these problems, not mine. All I'm doing is pointing them out.
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My reply to everything but 5, I am sick of hearing you bitch. Shut up. I have yet to hear anyone else agree with your opinions at all, so the problems are as far as I know, just yours.
5) I don't like double post, you can consider that one a freebie.
5) I don't like double post, you can consider that one a freebie.
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I don't bitch.
I point out problems or call out your BS. Then you refuse to acknowledge any possibility that you might be wrong.
I know I'm stubborn and too argumentative for my own good. But your much worse here.
I point out problems or call out your BS. Then you refuse to acknowledge any possibility that you might be wrong.
I know I'm stubborn and too argumentative for my own good. But your much worse here.
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Well, you made your choice. Bye.
Edit: Guys, how do you want me to handle this? Should I give a reason for his character leaving or do you just want to ignore it and RP the situation out yourselves?
Edit: Guys, how do you want me to handle this? Should I give a reason for his character leaving or do you just want to ignore it and RP the situation out yourselves?
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Ramsus wrote:Well, I need a new 5th player for my D&D game if anyone is interested. Could use some kind of melee character.
Name: Tordek Ironfist
Race: Dwarf
Class: Fighter
Abilities:
Strength: 16
Constitution: 14+2 = 16
Dexterity: 10
Intelligence: 8
Wisdom: 14+2 = 16
Charisma: 13
Trained Skills: Athletics, Endurance, Intimidate, Perception, Acrobatics, Streetwise
Profession(s): Blacksmith
Character details: Tordek was born into a long line of dwarven blacksmiths in the merchant caste of Hanko. His father was a blacksmith, and his father before him, and his father… Dwarves do like their ancestry and honor. But Tordek wanted more out of life. At first he tried mining, but he simply didn’t have the ability as other specialists. Without anything to do other than mend weapons and armor, Tordek took to watching gladiatorial combat a bit more closely than most. And there he found out about the art of combat. Tordek found a new purpose in life – to learn all he can about the art of combat. Maybe then he can make a name for himself, not the name that a family left him with.
Religion: As a dwarf, Tordek was raised as a servant of Moradin, but upon finding his new calling he converted to Kord instead. As such he isn't overly religious - Kord does not answer prayers for strength, and has given life to the world so that men can find their own strength.
Equipment: Plate armor and Greataxe
Let me know if I need to adjust anything.
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Brony 7 of 9 wrote:tl;dr tordek is in it for the bitches
Who isn't in it for the bitches?
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Uh...wow, that was fast. (That was so fast I have no idea if you ever read the first two posts, make sure you do if you hadn't already.)
Well, I'd say you need three more skills just to be fair? Looks pretty good though. Any thoughts on religion (inb4 Moradin)? I'm assuming you aren't a slave or ex-slave with that background. What kind of weapons/armor setup you got? Only adjustment I can think of is that combat is probably not something anyone in this society grows up with without being aware of but, that's just nitpicking.
How come it's always male dwarves?
Do you have an MSN or Skype address so I can talk to you when speed and back and forth would be convenient?
Well, I'd say you need three more skills just to be fair? Looks pretty good though. Any thoughts on religion (inb4 Moradin)? I'm assuming you aren't a slave or ex-slave with that background. What kind of weapons/armor setup you got? Only adjustment I can think of is that combat is probably not something anyone in this society grows up with without being aware of but, that's just nitpicking.
How come it's always male dwarves?
Do you have an MSN or Skype address so I can talk to you when speed and back and forth would be convenient?
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And now we have to rewind the last five posts.
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Okay, edited.
So, the setting is desert Japan, with various caste systems; Tordek can't go any higher than an unofficially-recognized artisan when it comes to ranks, due to being a lesser race; he's not allowed to own magic items; dwarves, humans, and shifters were once at war, and technically still are, only now it's more about honor. The only ninja clans he would be accepted into would be the Crimson Talon and the Broken Chains. There are dinosaurs, kind of like the Sauruses in Quest for Glory II (which is much more Arabian in nature than this.)
Religion-wise, yeah, Moradin would be the obvious choice, but Tordek gave up familial and artisan obligations, so I figure he changed religions to Kord/Crom.
I just looked at my Player's Handbook and saw the Fighter could only get 3 trained skills - Heal and Streetwise being the ones I chose not to get. So now he's also trained in Perception, Acrobatics, and Streetwise.
When one plays a female dwarf, one has to think on whether or not they have a beard. Also, male dwarves are easier to play, because they're all Gimli pretty much. I knew one guy who chose to play a Russian dwarf instead, though.
Weapons/armor are standard dwarven stuff - plate armor and greataxe. As for how Tordek knows about combat... I'll think of something. Maybe he read ancient scrolls documenting the past wars and got interested?
As for MSN, I'm pretty sure I have it, or at least Windows Live Messenger. Alexander von Koopa or zangooseab@yahoo.com should work.
So, the setting is desert Japan, with various caste systems; Tordek can't go any higher than an unofficially-recognized artisan when it comes to ranks, due to being a lesser race; he's not allowed to own magic items; dwarves, humans, and shifters were once at war, and technically still are, only now it's more about honor. The only ninja clans he would be accepted into would be the Crimson Talon and the Broken Chains. There are dinosaurs, kind of like the Sauruses in Quest for Glory II (which is much more Arabian in nature than this.)
Religion-wise, yeah, Moradin would be the obvious choice, but Tordek gave up familial and artisan obligations, so I figure he changed religions to Kord/Crom.
I just looked at my Player's Handbook and saw the Fighter could only get 3 trained skills - Heal and Streetwise being the ones I chose not to get. So now he's also trained in Perception, Acrobatics, and Streetwise.
When one plays a female dwarf, one has to think on whether or not they have a beard. Also, male dwarves are easier to play, because they're all Gimli pretty much. I knew one guy who chose to play a Russian dwarf instead, though.
Weapons/armor are standard dwarven stuff - plate armor and greataxe. As for how Tordek knows about combat... I'll think of something. Maybe he read ancient scrolls documenting the past wars and got interested?
As for MSN, I'm pretty sure I have it, or at least Windows Live Messenger. Alexander von Koopa or zangooseab@yahoo.com should work.
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I actually meant that combat is like....all over the place, you wouldn't need to look in scrolls for it. Unless you mean old dwarven forms of combat I get but...secret dwarven axe martial arts? I guess that could be a thing.
Heh, dwarven ninja.
You don't actually have to be limited to the ones Fighters are supposed to be able to get if you wanted other skills.
Btw, why is his Int 8 if he spent a bunch of time studing? Or was it just that he was studying about fighting? (Not that you can't be dumb and study anyway, just asking.)
Edit: I added you on msn, either you're not on or it's being glitchy and just not working.
Edit 2: Bronymous, no we don't. I can easily say something so you guys just carry on. Though, it does mean that Tordek doesn't get a tournament fight (because I don't really want to do another one when we just did one). If 7 of 9 wants his character to lose the next fight in the tournament he can show up that way (and feel free to describe the fight himself) otherwise he can show up normally. 7 of 9, just let me know if you'd be interested in doing that or not.
Heh, dwarven ninja.
You don't actually have to be limited to the ones Fighters are supposed to be able to get if you wanted other skills.
Btw, why is his Int 8 if he spent a bunch of time studing? Or was it just that he was studying about fighting? (Not that you can't be dumb and study anyway, just asking.)
Edit: I added you on msn, either you're not on or it's being glitchy and just not working.
Edit 2: Bronymous, no we don't. I can easily say something so you guys just carry on. Though, it does mean that Tordek doesn't get a tournament fight (because I don't really want to do another one when we just did one). If 7 of 9 wants his character to lose the next fight in the tournament he can show up that way (and feel free to describe the fight himself) otherwise he can show up normally. 7 of 9, just let me know if you'd be interested in doing that or not.
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I'll adjust the backstory to watching dwarven gladiators and not thinking that being one would be a bad idea or something like that so the low intelligence makes more sense, though.
I don't use MSN a lot, btw, but I'll try to get a Skype account up and running tomorrow. Heck, I'm not even sure my MSN works.
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How come people always post before I'm done editing stuff so that I'm never sure what people saw? >_<
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Did not see Edit 2. Tordek could either be late or untrained. Untrained may undermine Tordek's position as resident badass, but late is boring, so I guess I could describe the fight myself.
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Ok, great, I'll just put in a short explanation about why we no longer care about the Shifter.
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Good position to have, Resident Badass. I know from experience.
No we HAVE to rewind because you HAVE to let us do it right, and furthermore the NPC's wouldn't allow us to go near him because they side with him, and also SWORDS and MAGIC and KBUERIULBV;AWOINVOIQB;IAUVR;ERB;VK;DBSK;BV;dskb; sb
Bronymous, no we don't. I can easily say something so you guys just carry on.
No we HAVE to rewind because you HAVE to let us do it right, and furthermore the NPC's wouldn't allow us to go near him because they side with him, and also SWORDS and MAGIC and KBUERIULBV;AWOINVOIQB;IAUVR;ERB;VK;DBSK;BV;dskb; sb
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I should probably not be laughing quite so hard at that.
Edit: Btw 7/9 (that's right, I'm too lazy to even say 7 of 9, if I could figure out an acceptable nickname for Bronymous I would use one for him too), I like the choice of acrobatics on a dwarf. It's a nice bold choice. (Not that it technically doesn't make sense or anything, you just don't see it too much.)
Edit: Btw 7/9 (that's right, I'm too lazy to even say 7 of 9, if I could figure out an acceptable nickname for Bronymous I would use one for him too), I like the choice of acrobatics on a dwarf. It's a nice bold choice. (Not that it technically doesn't make sense or anything, you just don't see it too much.)
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I figured dwarves aren't stealthy or great thieves, and Tordek's not a braniac, so he might as well take another physical skill.Ramsus wrote:Edit: Btw 7/9 (that's right, I'm too lazy to even say 7 of 9, if I could figure out an acceptable nickname for Bronymous I would use one for him too), I like the choice of acrobatics on a dwarf. It's a nice bold choice. (Not that it technically doesn't make sense or anything, you just don't see it too much.)
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