Re: Ask a Simple Question - Get a Simple Answer

Quietkal Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:56 pm

@Xel, Lash Out also doesn't trigger Resist/Vulnerability a second time after the initial attack's damage. I'd cite the earlier ask, but I don't feel like digging. It really should be an interrupt, but it just hasn't been patched to that.

@Logan, Because there's not a long history of creatures throwing other creatures into pits? Like...everytime there has ever been a battle around a pit?
I can see not wanting to make it too powerful, but that definitely seems to me like that should work.

**LoganAura** Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:06 pm

Quietkal wrote:an, Because there's not a long history of creatures throwing other creatures into pits? Like...everytime there has ever been a battle around a pit?
I can see not wanting to make it too powerful, but that definitely seems to me like that should work.

You've got a point, but I was going with the way I'd rule it. The dev's have the final say

A1C Bronymous Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:04 pm

It should be worded different if the intent is just to pull near. As its stated right now it explicitly says it brings the enemy to an adjacent square. The words "up to" and "in your direction" would probably help in a rewrite.

**Philadelphus** Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:49 am

LoganAura wrote:Personally I'd rule it as unusable if no squares near you are open. Otherwise you could 'pull' an enemy into a pit if you're a flier over a pit.

I'd rule it no since you're summoning them.

Cool, that's how I ruled it on both counts. Glad to hear someone else's opinion.

And Quietkal, don't worry, there are plenty of other talents in the tabletop rulebook that allow you to move enemies about as you like (including into pits). :)It's no big deal if this one doesn't work in this specific scenario (and it's not going to be a very common scenario in general, since it requires that you have zero open spaces around you).

Zarhon Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:09 am

Well, as far as fliers go, you can't exactly "float" in midair during your turn - you have to end a turn on the ground. So the idea of getting pulled into a pit doesn't work, or at least, it works by standing near a pit and pulling a creature next to you.

The whole "pull" mechanic (which is essentially "move target a square closer to you"), and the fact the ability has a limited damage based on the amount pulled would probably allow you to bring something as close as adjacent as you can.

It's not a melee ability so there's no reason for it to not work, even if you can't pull it right to you (it's a whip of thorns, it grabs them, and they take damage cause it's made of thorns. Why would them not getting in your face stop either of those?). It's not a jump mechanic, so it doesn't require line of sight.

Alternate rulings might be that you push away/slide away a creature that would be blocking the pull. Could be made so that they also take damage (cause they'd be knocked into each other).

An interesting thing to consider, though, is how such abilities would work on flying targets - For instance, if an enemy has an ability that lets it pull fliers up to itself, mid-flight, as a reaction or interrupt (think a lasso that grabs a fleeing flyer) - and what if they also have no spaces to pull them to? The flyer can be "adjacent" to a creature by being directly above them, or a square upwards, diagonally.

And an alternate question: When you pull a creature through a "dangerous" effect that doesn't require the creature to enter willingly (just enter, or start their turn in it - there are a few move abilities that do this, leaving dangerous squared behind where you move, which you or your allies can then pull or push enemies into), does the creature take damage in the process, and can it take damage multiple times in a row from the same effect (e.g. pulled through three consecutive dangerous squares)?

Z2 Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:20 pm

Switching weapons is 2 minor actions.
You can't switch armor mid combat.
But what about trinkets? Can you switch trinkets for ONE minor action? That would make a little bit of sense...

**Philadelphus** Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:54 am

There isn't an official ruling on this as far as I know (would be a good thing to clarify in the appropriate document). If I were GMing, I'd probably house rule that it takes two minors (one to put trinket A away, one to pull trinket B out), but if you're house ruling you can do whatever you want anyway.

deonte9109 Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:02 am

So using genetic engineering, can I take both Expert Skill and Cutie Mark for one character?

The Wording for both:

**Stairc -Dan Felder** Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:10 am

While this isn't clear, the expert skill you get automatically is the same expert skill in the genetic engineering doc. It's only ig you don't want one that you can refund the expert skill for two points.

This is *really* confusing the way it's currently written though. So, take this as a clarification.

**Paper Shadow** Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:40 pm

Just to make sure, how many attribute points does a companion have? Is it just the 8 from Specialist, or 16 like a character who had Specialist would have?

Hayatecooper Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:07 pm

Just the 8, as companion don't technically start with any.

Xel Unknown Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:08 pm

combat items doc wrote:Karmic Mirror - 6000 Gold
Trinket
You may use the following combat talent.

[-1] Reflect Barrier - Reaction Utility
Trigger - A creature would subject you to a (save ends) effect.
Effect - The triggering creature is subjected to the (save ends) effect instead. [*]

Does this item allow you to avoid getting the tirggering (save ends) effect? the fact the wording says "instead" implys that, but the fact that it's a "reaction" implys that it might not...

Fury of the Tempest Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:09 pm

I guess it should be an interrupt, but yeah. Its stop you from being affected.

**Stairc -Dan Felder** Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:03 am

Technically it should be an interrupt. Fury is correct about the conclusion.

Fury of the Tempest Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:09 pm

I have a question. How come the errata & errata discussion has been so quiet? Is it because the dev's are focusing on the combat revamp?

**LoganAura** Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:24 pm

That's most likely it, since... Well, combat is getting a giant revamp, almost completely as far as I know.

Admittedly, it's about time, when I've seen so many broken builds.

**Stairc -Dan Felder** Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:41 pm

Combat is getting a giant revamp that will change most combat talents and make them easier for everyone to design in the future (math will be a lot less tricky). Utility talents and racial traits are also getting a huge revamp that will make building characters more flexible and allow the inclusion of a modified talent specialization system (this project is being led by Philadelphus). Destinies are being slightly modified to fit with the new utility/racial trait system and the Form of the Avatar destiny is being added (this project is being led by Lapis Lazily). New crits that fit the new math are being designed and balanced (Nathaniel is balancing these).

Actually, we could really use suggestions for new crit designs. I'll make a thread for that.

**Paper Shadow** Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:43 pm

Stairc -Dan Felder wrote:Combat is getting a giant revamp that will change most combat talents and make them easier for everyone to design in the future (math will be a lot less tricky). Utility talents and racial traits are also getting a huge revamp that will make building characters more flexible and allow the inclusion of a modified talent specialization system (this project is being led by Philadelphus). Destinies are being slightly modified to fit with the new utility/racial trait system and the Form of the Avatar destiny is being added (this project is being led by Lapis Lazily). New crits that fit the new math are being designed and balanced (Nathaniel is balancing these).

Actually, we could really use suggestions for new crit designs. I'll make a thread for that.

There already is one...

**Stairc -Dan Felder** Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:46 pm

I actually think a new thread would be helpful, because there are specific rules I'd need to post about how to design balanced crits under the new system and what we're looking for. It'd be helpful to have that in the intro post.

**Stairc -Dan Felder** Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:59 pm

Here's the thread.

New Special Move Talk

Antiquated Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:12 am

Can you ever, for any reason, with any amount of harmony points behind it, replicate a level 10 destiny ability with Magecraft?

Like, could you thrall someone or true resurrect someone (create a new body for them) with Magecraft? Ever, for any reason, with any roll, even if the entire party chipped in for harmony points and you got your arcane roll into the 100 200 range, would that ever be possible?

I mean, ultimately, it would be up to the DM to make the call, but I would think that you just shouldn't be able to do certain things, even with magecraft... Or, baring that, that the DC for copying a level 10 destiny ability would be functionally impossible to reach.

**Stairc -Dan Felder** Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:32 am

Antiquated wrote:Can you ever, for any reason, with any amount of harmony points behind it, replicate a level 10 destiny ability with Magecraft?

Like, could you thrall someone or true resurrect someone (create a new body for them) with Magecraft? Ever, for any reason, with any roll, even if the entire party chipped in for harmony points and you got your arcane roll into the 100 200 range, would that ever be possible?

I mean, ultimately, it would be up to the DM to make the call, but I would think that you just shouldn't be able to do certain things, even with magecraft... Or, baring that, that the DC for copying a level 10 destiny ability would be functionally impossible to reach.

"Give me a lever long enough, and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I will move the world."

This is fundamentally true.

Magecraft is a lever.

Good luck finding one long enough. It's a theoretical possibility, but unless you're getting 10 spectacular successes in a row... It's the pipedream of a pipedream.

Antiquated Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:22 pm

How does this work?

[-1] Blood Pact - Minor Utility
For the rest of the battle, at the beginning of your turn, you gain 1 energy and then lose 1
HP for each energy you have.

Do gain one energy and loose one hp for each energy you have? So, if you had 4 pips and 30 hp at the start of the turn, you would you gain 4 pips and then loose 8 hp.

Or do you gain one energy and then loose hp equal to your total pips. So, if you had 4 pips and 30 hp at the start of the turn, you would gain 1 pip and then loose 5 hp.

**Stairc -Dan Felder** Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:24 pm

Your second guess is correct. You'd now have 5 energy and lose 5 hp.

Antiquated Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:42 pm

Stairc -Dan Felder wrote:Your second guess is correct. You'd now have 5 energy and lose 5 hp.

Thanks again for the quick response, you guys rock!

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